Easy... Easy.... EEEEassssyyyyyyy... perfect

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  • I've seen people play these machines hundreds, maybe thousands of times. Never ONCE have I seen anyone film themselves playing one
  • Easy... Easy.... EEEEassssyyyyyyy... perfect
  • Now I can finally get that lobster harmonica
  • NTMTO The one claw that actually works
  • How to win arcade claw machines
  • Jackpot failing claw machine
  • ぬいぐるみがごっそり取れるクレーンゲームの攻略法
  • How to win the lottery
  • Winning more than one
  • クレーンゲームのアームのポテンシャル
  • Fuck your game
  • Arcade Machine
  • ロボットアナーキズム
  • So close!
  • me irl

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  • Kylee Gorczany Reply

    http://asl.ms/()/().htm practice makes perfect. spend an hour a day doing that and you'll have it. additionally, as a hearing person who struggled with reading finger spelling myself, try sounding out the letters you see. Hear the sound the letters make in your head instead of trying to read each one by name.

  • Arvilla Mertz Reply

    I really recommend to take at least one beginners course, just to have some direct feedback. On how big/small you sign, how to keep your arms and elbows, the speed of your transitions. But also to thoroughly learn the basics; how to sign a perfect alphabet and the word order. I've taken up to the C-course in Swedish ASL, and after that I felt comfortable with learning on my own.

  • Sage Marks Reply

    I have two sons, 3 and 5. We are teaching the 5 year old Spanish and ASL at the same time. Even he recognizes Latin based languages are easier to learn than English due to all the stupid shit we have in English. The most common example that also is a perfect example he brought up? There, their, they're. If a five year old knows this is stupid, what's that really saying.

  • Ulises Rolfson Reply

    > Next question. When controlling someone, does a vampire need to actually give a verbal command? Good one. I'm two minds about this: it makes sense conceptually that, for example, giving a command in sign language (whether like ASL or that military gesturing thing you see on TV), putting your fingers to your lips to indicate be quiet, etc would all be sensible ways this power could work. However, also conceptually, you'd imagine the power would work from the vampire's gaze having a power over you. So if you stopped looking into her eyes to see what she was signing you to do, the spell would be broken. I'd say that it can be a non-verbal command, however it has to be easily "read" by someone staring into your eyes. So you couldn't hold up a piece of paper with instructions on it, and you might not be able to sign (I'm not sure if you can understand sign language whilst staring into the speaker's eyes?), but you'd definitely be able to put your finger to your lips to indicate "quiet" for example. > Does he actually have to say something like "Drop it!" (And if he does, is the signer able to misunderstand him and drop something else instead? ...let's just say he's holding something in his other hand as well). Using the gun to your head analogy: it would be the thing you thought they most probably meant. So, for example, if you had a microphone in one hand and a sandwich in the other and you were signing, you'd probably drop the microphone unless you saw the vampire was the person you stole the sandwich from. You might be able to deliberately disobey (e.g. dropping your handbag rather than the gun you're pointing at the vampire's ally), but it would take a lot of guts, and the willpower to do so would be just below what it would take to just ignore the order in the first place. > ...not quite sure how that hurts Perseus, but okay, that makes sense. In the myth, he kills Medusa by using her reflection in his shield to guide his blade. If you look at Medusa, you turn to stone, but the reflection doesn't have the same property. So, using the mirror physics just proposed, Perseus would not be able to kill Medusa like that. > can a vampire, with the aid of a mirror, mind-control himself? > > (I'm imagining this could potentially be very embarrassing, with the vampire frozen in front of the mirror, starring at his own eyes, until someone else comes and takes the mirror away) Vampires are immune to mind control, so no. It also takes effort to do, so it'd be hard to come up with a situation where a vampire might try and control her reflection (though you could always throw a mirror in the way before they try and control you. But as I said, it's moot, as vampires are immune). > I've been looking into this a bit more, and apparently there's some types of brass that look *really* golden. Oh yeah. Might work well instead of aluminium. I was proud of the aluminium fakeout though, because aluminium used to be *so* valuable so it would make sense as a gift given by a long-lived being, and now would be seen as a unbelievably cheap fake silver. >> shenanigans result, probably including a vombie which they won't understand and will just give them the impression that vampires are crazed beasts, so the discovery that William is a thinking, feeling being will be a nice twist. > > Ooooh, nice. Yeah. I'm tossing up all my ideas for JaNoWriMo now I've decided that I'll do it. I can see a kind of rational prologue, with the hunters trying all sorts of things (mirrors, etc) could be fun. But I've been watching *Jane the Virgin* and it's made me feel a lot better about romance as a genre. We'll see what gets me excited when I come around to choosing between ideas. > > Like, I imagine if we discovered Australia today, we'd form a treaty with the aboriginals, maybe arrange some mining rights and whatnot, and settlement but "do everything right". > > I *hope* you would, but I *doubt* you would. It's hard to take people seriously when they can't send a negotiator who's got a university-level qualification, and it's easy to take advantage of people who don't know the value of what they're selling (especially if they're selling stuff they didn't even know *existed* before they got to the negotiating table). > > I'm not saying that war is inevitable or that you wouldn't do better now, but I'm sure there would still be problems and people taking advantage where they shouldn't. Maybe. But we have the Sentinelese people and those uncontacted tribes out in the middle of Brazil, and they're left mostly alone. (Well, the Sentinelese people don't give us much say in the matter what with all the arrows). Then again, they also live in areas that are pretty undesireable, whereas Australia, the Americas, Africa all have gold, diamonds, vast tracts of land, etc. I like to have faith in people but you may be right. > ...I have absolutely no idea how well New Zealand is doing. I do know that we're doing very well, considering; and if we can just deal with certain corrupt politicians, we'll be doing even better. The considering is the bad part though. I don't know what the situation is like in NZ or South Africa, but Australia has[ a 10 year difference in life expectancy](http://www.australianstogether.org.au/stories/detail/the-gap-indigenous-disadvantage-in-australia) between indigenous and non-indigenous Australians. Lower graduation rates, higher suicide rates, higher incarceration rates, higher rates of infant mortality, the list goes on. A lot of that is related to alcohol, smoking, and the fact that indigenous people tend to live in rural areas more often. A gap of 10 years is just appalling though. New Zealand has put more recognition for Maori language programmes, has a lot of good social policies, etc. > [](/discordsmug-r) We've got the Cradle of Humankind. Not the *oldest* human fossils ever found - apparently those were in Ethiopia - but some pretty old humanoid fossils. > > [](/sp) [](/pinkamina-r) Yeah well - well - [check out this rock](http://36jc171to3614nejl1qtq461.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Wave-Rock-31.jpg)! [](/sp) > Hmmmm... that's true. And then the father pushing the son to find a girl, get married, and then create and train the next generation. And the son, who knows *very well* how to manipulate a girl's emotions in a variety of undetectable ways, has to *not do that* and try to find a girlfriend the old-fashioned way... in the rare time between his lessons in mental manipulation. Oh god.... can you imagine what that relationship would look like? A relationship between equals after someone had gone through life being told nobody was? It would take some intense parental meddling. > And, at least in some generations in the past, the mind-mage isn't all that concerned about the girl's emotional independence, and he just finds one who looks good and makes her develop an attraction to him... > > It's possible that that stopped when one of the wives found out and asserted her independence with a sword. Yeah, assuming mages wouldn't bother training their powerful daughters. I suppose if they had a suitable son why waste the effort. You might end up with some very post-apocalyptic type scenarios if you were able to subjugate the erstwhile mothers easily enough. :( > [](/twiponder "But perhaps it even goes both ways - a mage who can cast a spell around the vampire blood messing things up, also tears apart the magical properties of the blood in the process, thus losing the ghouling benefit after the first spell") [](/sp) [](/tavivinyllove-r "Now I'm imagining a vampire and a mage having a mutually beneficial relationship where the mage gets his spell power boosted and the vampire gets protection, which ultimately ends up with them ~falling in love~ [how romantic!]. Wouldn't that just be perfect~~~ [new antagonist idea unlocked]") [](/sp) > In the old testament, the Israelite kings were specifically and deliberately *chosen* by God. If William has an ego (it sounds like he does), he can easily infer from that that he was a divinely-chosen monarch even if he didn't realise it at the time. "It all makes sense! The reason I'm so awesome and was able to get eternal meat-suit life is because God chose me for it. I'm going to go around collecting junk, watching plays, and maccing on dudes now. That is the life God would want for me" Yeah.... I actually really can see it. He's just waiting for the veil of ignorance to lift and for France to recognise him as their rightful king so he can go back to ruling, only instead of basically being a war-chief he goes to a lot of meetings about agriculture and immigration and wonders where all the swordfights are. > > That sounds like exactly the sort of self-serving, egomanical type of thing the man would do. He's probably feeling pretty secure about that immortal soul of his. > > But he may be a bit more worried about the immortal soul of his American soldier. *Red* didn't buy the indulgences, after all. Yeah, but, I gotta level with you - he loves Red and all, but his wife-whilst-human is waiting for him (or already with him? who knows!) up in heaven (surely! He bought her tons of posthumous indulgences!). Red can do what he likes, William's got a backup plan. ... maybe that's not the most romantic thing to have. But I think that's how his mind is gonna work. Of course, it would be *great* if Red could get his immortal soul saved and all that - he asked him a few times whilst he was alive, and it seemed he was on some variation of what Saint Paul started only a few hundred years before William was born. No chance of him getting an authentic 5th century catholic priest to bless him and make sure it's all legit, unless - oh god, William is going to turn the world upside down to try and find an authentic 5th (or really, 6th or 7th will do) century vampire priest to get all this down. ... Maybe the Vatican has one?

  • Miguel Hamill Reply

    I am 32. I have severe to profound hearing loss in both ears, moderately progressive (my hearing was much better as a child). I was raised in a mainstream educational setting, primarily because no school for the Deaf was within close driving and my parents didn't want to send me to a residential school. A key factor in this is that my mother was a special education teacher, so she had some understanding of how the system works and how to supplement my learning at home. I never really felt the need for CIs, even the modern versions. (Who's gonna pay for it, for one?!) Of course, part of my issue is that I have auditory processing issues, so what I DO hear with my hearing aids isn't something that I can easily identify and label. I suppose if my processing ability was better I might lean more for CIs than I do now. I absolutely think the school district is in the wrong. Sure, English is your daughter's first SPOKEN language, and there's nothing necessarily wrong with wanting her to be able to speak. It should NOT be her only language. The school should be providing the whole package - interpreters, ASL instruction, and speech therapy. If she has progressive hearing loss, she'll just continue to lose hearing most likely - she needs access to the world NOW so that she can continue to have access LATER. The other way I like to put it is this: knowing ASL is like having a tool in the toolbox. When is it ever, ever a bad thing to have more tools in your toolbox? I know several people who got CIs young or were raised in mostly oral environments and didn't learn ASL until later, and were frustrated when they felt it more difficult to learn ASL later. Also expressed unhappiness because they missed out on a lot as a child that they may have had access to through sign language and interpreting services. Interpreters aren't perfect, but they will give your daughter a broader range of accessibility to the educational environment, and that's important. When you're in the classroom, what happens in a moment is gone in the next moment. If you miss something the teacher said, you have to wait until you can ask for clarification, and in the meantime you're missing other things and conceptual information may not be complete, which will hinder your understanding and ability to complete work. Etc etc. My recommendation would be to look into the Deaf school. Most Deaf schools have speech therapy on top of sign language instruction. If you don't like what you see, go back to the public school district and push for your daughter's right to an accessible classroom. It's bullshit.

  • Mylene Cormier Reply

    My father speaks English and sign language. Once, he was in a sushi restaurant working on his computer when he notice a couple Signing back and forth to one another. Basically just talking very critically of the people around them. Eventually, they made it around to my father, where they talked about how basically, he's a fat guy and is making a mess. He then proceeded to introduce himself in perfect ASL. Their faces turned beet red. Anytime sign language comes up in conversation, he tells this story.

  • Grover DuBuque Reply

    > I know several people who got CIs young or were raised in mostly oral environments and didn't learn ASL until later, and were frustrated when they felt it more difficult to learn ASL later. Also expressed unhappiness because they missed out on a lot as a child that they may have had access to through sign language and interpreting services. Interpreters aren't perfect, but they will give your daughter a broader range of accessibility to the educational environment, and that's important. Well said. I was one of those people - I got a CI at age of 8 and have now started learning ASL, 14 years after the surgery. I deeply regret that I didn't take the initiative to learn ASL because if I was already fluent, then interpreters would have been a tremendous benefit for me. CIs are not a perfect cure but it surely complements ASL for communication.

  • Elisha Wehner Reply

    Well, I used to speak ASL as a teenager with my Deaf friends, but it's been 20 years ago, but I'll be the first to admit that I'm out of touch with the community. I moved to Berlin (Germany) 10 years ago, which makes it hard for me to get back into it too. Sure, I'll admit that I'm not Deaf, but I spent a lot of time with my Deaf friends. Unfortunately I've lost track of all of them by now. I never felt like I was fluent, but I could always express myself by signing. My mom is an amateur interpreter and she taught me a lot. It hurts me to hear that we're taking the wrong approach. I'm here exactly, because I want to connect with this community and understand what we need to do to make this work, because I think there will be different challenges than for hearing communities. As for "adding" in ASL, yeah I have to admit you're right about that. We've been preparing this campaign since mid-July. A week before we launched the campaign, a friend of ours who is active in the Auslan community mentioned sign languages to us and a light bulb went off in my head. This would be perfect, because it's also a community where people are spread around, etc. Anyway, I spent an hour watching DPAN yesterday to try to shake the rust off my ASL and dig deeper into Deaf culture and was almost brought to tears by the beauty of it all. I want to get back into ASL despite even living outside of its region where it's primarily used. We're running this Kickstarter to help connect and develop this app for other language community and need your help to turn this into what you really want. :-/

  • Russel Schmitt Reply

    I've never thought about how scary things like traffic or the sounds of the birds chirping might be for someone like you. You might feel overwhelmed. Thanks to the insight. I'm a nursing student trying (and struggling, tbh) to learn ASL so that I can better interact with patients like you. Something I've noticed is that when people have conversations, they don't speak in perfect ASL. It almost seems like there a conversational difference. Do you know what I mean? If so, do you have any tips on how to learn this kind of sign? Sometimes I'll see people when I'm out and about and I really want to test out my conversational skills, but I DONT want them to feel like "monkey in cages" that I can practice on and leave. I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. Any suggestions?

  • Nathaniel Hilpert Reply

    Natural limitations can be discouraging, but they are also something that can be trained. 7 hours of sleep may or may not be enough for you. I'm not a doctor but I've heard that it varies by person what they actually need for optimal health. I know I'm on the high end and need around 10 hours a night to feel healthy (which sucks given my crippling insomnia keeping me up for 3-4 hours every night >_>) 400 miliseconds is a bit higher than ideal, as that's about 24 frames. Give a site like this a try http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime . Also remember that visual reaction time is much slower than audio reaction time for humans. Hand exercises are vital for developing the speed for smash. Both stretching regularly and doing finger/grip strength exercises can help smashers of any age. You'll notice you'll be able to do things like dash dance for longer, do repeated short hop air attacks for longer and more consistently ect. the stronger your hands are. Other options include picking up American Sign Language (no joke I improved a ton at Smash through 2 years of ASL) or gymnastic kinds of exercise. Training sessions in Smash can also improve finger strength, such as doing perfect pivot trials or even just mashing the stick around. Just be sure to stretch regularly like you would for any other exercise!

  • Kailyn Reynolds Reply

    Yeah, in a way it would be great if they just cleaned up the rough edges instead of doing a full "Brood War HD" remaster. Native 1080+ resolution on modern OSes, built-in matchmaking and auto tournaments like SC2 has, hotkey configuration, and maybe some integration with the bnet client's social system would go a long way toward winning the people who are interested in the game from watching competitive matches but give up for one reason or another. And this is a perfect time to actually get a lot of players because of the hype around ASL, not to mention the possible influx of well known kespa players into Brood War leagues.

  • Cullen Zulauf Reply

    Great question. I've honestly heard nothing about this from the company nor does anything appear in their documentation for developers on accessibility. That said, the new version of their developer tools use two items, Embodied Speech and MIMs, which could help with accessibility for deaf people, although not necessarily solve the issue altogether. Embodied Speech allows the system to pick up on certain words/phrases and animate them either on screen, via body movements, or both. MIMs also will provide automatic visual feedback when Jibo asks a question, but it's currently setup to only do so if the user doesn't respond with something expected or within a certain amount of time. So, these features will help, but they are not perfect and I would expect at least some frustration for a deaf person interacting with Jibo without other more specialized tools being incorporated. Blind people might be able to fare better since almost all of Jibo's interaction can be by voice. As for Jibo understanding ASL...that won't be available on release, but I can imagine a third-party developer or company working on this in the future. In fact, just recently a video was posted of the [Jibo simulator being controlled by hand gestures](https://twitter.com/jibodev/status/786272786381627393) so it's certainly within the realm of possibility.

  • Adrain Wintheiser Reply

    Honestly, the best way to learn is in person from someone in the Deaf community. There are movements and grammar that can be difficult to perfect from a video, and sign language has dialects just like spoken language. And there are a fair number of sign language videos out there that are actually signed exact English, not American Sign Language (provided that you are in a country that uses ASL), which means you won't be learning the grammar of the language. My personal suggestion is to find a college near you that offers classes and take a 101 course. Many are taught by Deaf teachers or hearing people who have been interpreters. As for online resources, Signing Savvy is a good site for building vocabulary.

  • Felton Carroll Reply

    I used to manage a Subway back in the day, and we had this one regular that would always come in when I was working. She would leave if I wasn't there, according to some of my peons that worked the night shift. She only spoke in ASL, and given that I knew a decent amount, I figured she would only come in when I was working since I was the only dude on my crew she could communicate with. Nope, turns out she spoke and could hear perfect english, but she had super bad anxiety related to actually talking. It was the weirdest thing where, after over 6 months of her coming in 3+ times a week, she responded to my spoken, and habitual, "have a great day" with "thanks, you too!" in perfect english. I was so shocked it didn't even register for a couple of minutes and I just stood there dumbfounded. From then on she ditched the ASL and just talked to me when ordering, as long as there was no other customers, and none of the rest of my crew was visible.

  • Hannah Kozey Reply

    You're full of shit and you're pissing me off and I'm glad you're getting out of the interpreting field because you're an absolutely horrible interpreter with this attitude. > Not only is ASL it’s own language, but unlike Signed English, “PSE”, and other bastardizations, it actually IS a language. Incorrect grammar aside, why are you repeating yourself? Yeah, ASL is *its* own language, but just like how American English is an offshoot of British English, which itself is also an offshoot of early Germanic languages, that doesn't make ASL's derivatives "bastardizations". They're a dialect to be used to ensure that both parties get the maximum benefit out of mutual communication. You're telling me that a person who grew up speaking Ebonics has no right to an interpreter because Ebonics is a bastardization of English spoken by a specific sub-sect of Americans? How about Jamacian Creole, or Gullah, or Aboriginal sign languages? (psst, every single one of those is considered a language too.) > Languages have rules governing grammar, syntax, and other aspects of structure, which means that it is possible to misuse the language (looking at you, Signed English, “PSE”, English mouthers and others). Your audism is showing big-time here because you consider the "bastardizations", as you so tactfully put it, of ASL as not "pure enough" to count as Ye Olde Proper ASL. SEE is a visual interpretation of English, PSE is an attempt at finding a middle ground between two languages, and what the hell is an "English mouther"? Do you consider Cued Speech a bastardization of ASL too because it's a manually-assisted form of English? > THIS research from 1994 proves beyond the possibility of debate that even people who use Signed English and prefer a transliteration (i.e., non-ASL signing) understand more from an ASL interpretation regardless of external factors. Here's your debate, and a debunking of that entire article: I earned a big fat F in macroeconomics in my first semester of college because there were 10 d/Deaf students in the class, 9 of whom requested ASL. When I re-took the class and specifically requested a Signed English interpreter for just myself, bam, A. There's no one-size-fits-all in transliteration, whether in a spoken language or a visual language. > I will adapt my vocabulary (within the confines of conceptually accurate signs), sign speed, and expansion as much as I can, but I will not break from using the language because you are convinced that you need Signed English. So, you'll adapt your translation by *not* translating because the client isn't using "proper" ASL? > Deaf people: I’m sorry that you were mainstreamed and/or had no access to education in and of grammatical ASL. I was mainstreamed in the Cued Speech program. I had access to "grammatical" ASL and education in ASL and Deaf history and culture as well. In high school I could facilitate communication between my ASL-only, Cued Speech-only, *and* hearing friends. Why are you sorry that I learned a useful skill? > You don’t, however, have a right to expect to be understood and reciprocated if you aren’t using the rules and structure of the language. That's true. However, as an interpreter, your job is to *interpret* what d/Deaf clients are trying to say into proper English. If you don't want to do that, then why are you an interpreter? > I’m not going to apologize for signing grammatically correct ASL What if the d/Deaf person doesn't understand grammatically-correct ASL? What if they prefer ESL or PSE? Do you tell them to go pound sand because you only sign in The Queen's ASL? > or having language, How does one "have language"? > but I will fight alongside you to help us get to a place where we are all communicating. So... you'll *interpret* what your d/Deaf client is trying to sign to the best of your ability? Which is, you know, your job as an *interpreter*? > Also, you’re using an interpreter instead of print for a reason. Because requesting CART services will get d/Deaf people a "Thank you for your interest but we've decided to go with another candidate" at every single job interview they're lucky enough to get. > Either sign grammatically correct ASL and trust me to use appropriate English How about YOU adapt to YOUR CLIENT'S needs (which is like, your entire job description as an *interpreter*) and not the other way around? Audist much? > (the subject in which I earned a degree, I might add), Degrees mean [jack](http://www.phoenixcollege.edu/academics/programs/american-sign-language-interpreter-preparation) and [shit](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/12/12/mandela-sign-language-interpreter-thamsanqa-jantjie/3995875/). Skill, exposure, and ongoing education is what matters. > or use a medium other than interpretation to get your point across. What do you recommend d/Deaf people use, if not their native language? Mime? > When you sign nonsense and mixed languages, I will make you sound like what you’re giving me. This is not a new thing in ASL or English or Spanish or any other language. I hope your "degree" courses taught you about [code-switching](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code-switching). > Interpreters: You’re not doing anyone any favors by attempting to match the degree to which the consumer deviates from ASL; you’re actually just making language intrusions right alongside them. There's no ASL equivalent of the *Académie française*. Who died and appointed you ASL Cop? > Even if you think it isn’t your role to be involved, Interpreters, [by definition](https://www.asli.org.uk/career_path/role_the_interpreter), are already [involved](http://www.mncourts.gov/documents/0/Public/Interpreter_Program/Ch_3_role_of_interpreter_Ch_4_when_court_must_hire.pdf). Their job is to ensure [equivalent](http://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/CIP-Ethics-Manual.pdf) ^(pg 3), impartial communication between two parties. If they are not fully fluent in one language or are biased one way or another, the communication is ineffective at best, [directly harmful](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3912286/) at worst. (Hint: it's the d/Deaf person who's [got the most to lose](http://www.imiaweb.org/resources/legal.asp), not the hearing person.) Interpreters are human; there's a [natural bias](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2705066/) in all communication, but interpreters (more so than the average person) are [well-aware of these limitations](http://www.pearllinguistics.com/blog/the-role-of-a-community-interpreter) and actively strive to reduce their own personal bias. > your silence is validating that schools should keep teaching this nonsense Have you done any formal studies or written any papers refuting "this nonsense"? If you think you know better, why don't you start your own interpreting program? > (which has no research backing it) Could you link us some of the resources and research backing non-involvement? > because “interpreters are flexible and will adapt to whatever is signed to them.” I keep repeating myself here: your entire job description as an interpreter is your translation abilities for customers who range in skill from "barely understand the language" to "fluent speaker". I direct your attention to the [definition of "flexible"](http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/flexible): flexible (adjective) able to change or be changed easily according to the situation There's a reason we have /r/ELI5; not everybody is on the same page, even if you think it's a blatantly obvious explanation. > I understand that accepting an assignment means that I have put myself into a role which will at times be uncomfortable by necessity, especially in order to ensure the autonomy of both parties. You can always reject an assignment. > I’m still going to be ethical and professional and not put your business on the street. Yeah, because if you're not ethical and professional, you're causing direct harm to the d/Deaf and hearing customers you're purportedly "interpreting" for. If you don't have personal integrity, you're destroying the integrity of the entire profession and d/Deaf people will have an even *harder* time interacting with the hearing world. > I may not interpret for you in the future, I hope you don't. > Team interpreters: ... When we are quiet, we hurt each other and hurt the Deaf more. If you're a sucky interpreter, both the d/Deaf and hearing customers are already aware and you don't need your teammates to tell you the same thing. TL;DR: What you are saying is the ASL equivalent of "I only interpret for customers who speak perfect English using the grammar rules as outlined in *The Elements of Style* using only APA citation formatting. Anyone else is not deserving of my services." I hope you show this thread to your Deaf wife so she can see what an asshole you are. You're a sorry excuse for an "interpreter" and you have absolutely no interest in serving the d/Deaf community. Shut the hell up and take your audism somewhere else, preferably on a lovely visit to the moon without a helmet.

  • Marian Keeling Reply

    While I don’t normally respond to things like this, I just don’t feel like I could hold back. I think it’s interesting that she calls Nyle’s perspectives “extreme”. Her views are extreme as well, just on the other side of the argument. She seems to be placing Deaf culture (of which she is not a part) in a lower position than hearing culture. I say this in reference to her statement, “Someone who only uses ASL, like Nyle, can’t interact with society without help from others.” That’s just not true. Yes, there are more challenges, and interactions are difficult with many hearing people, but Deaf people are not helpless. There are other options for communicating, such as writing and texting, when interacting with non-signing hearing people. Are those methods perfect? No. Are the author’s methods perfect? No. I’m sure there are many aspects of the hearing world that she is not completely able to master. Lipreading is hardly an exact science. People’s mouths move differently. Also, what if someone isn’t facing her? Can she understand everything they’re saying? Think about children in school who are oral only. Many struggle with that very issue on a daily basis: The teacher will be lecturing, and then s/he turns toward the board and continues speaking. If that student is relying on limited sound and lipreading, how much information is being lost every day in the classroom? A lot. I have heard stories and seen this first hand so many times. However, if I student has an interpreter, that information is much less likely to be dropped. I do admit, though, that even interpreters are not perfect; they have varying skill levels, and they might not hear all of the information themselves. And I would like to know a little more about the backgrounds of the children used in the study that Goldstein included in her article. It doesn’t say whether those who were bilingual had signing parents/language at home. They may not have developed language until later in life, which would obviously limit their literacy. It’s funny that she said, “In this case, the statistics don’t lie.” Yes, statistics do lie if all factors are not taken into account. There’s a famous quote: “There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.” But I can admit I don’t have all the facts and fingers at my disposal, so I can’t refute all of those claims. However, there is plenty of research that says the opposite of this one study. She disregards them by admitting only the evidence presented from oral-focused parties. She says that research doesn’t support the claims that bilingualism benefits deaf children. (But it does). Maybe there are some truths to both sides? Goldstein additionally wrote, “What he says about language deprivation may be true in developing countries where technology is difficult to obtain and parents rarely make the effort to learn sign language. But in our country, where hearing aids and cochlear implants are largely accessible, it’s just patently untrue.” No, no it isn’t! Does she think (like most people) that cochlear implants and hearing aids are miraculous cures? They’re undeniably not. They do not make deaf people hearing. Many individuals with cochlear implants don’t even have a very high level of English proficiency. Parents don’t want to learn sign language, so they don’t. Then their children have no access to any language. Even if they have cochlear implants, there is a lot of work involved in making sure the devices map correctly. Some parents don’t even do what they need to do with those implants, so the “wonderful benefits” don’t exist for their children. Maybe oralism worked for the author and her friends, but for MANY MANY children and adults, it does not. The author claims that Nyle’s comments are hurting the d/Deaf community. I’d argue that hers are more inflammatory and degrading (to those who use ASL). She’s saying that deaf children’s education should be left up to the parents only. If they want oralism, that’s their choice. What about the child’s choice? Do you know how many Deaf children have been hurt educationally and socially by parents choosing their language? Who’s to say that parents can’t have their children learn both English (whether spoken or written) plus ASL (or at least another signing system). Contact Sign and Conceptually Accurate Signed English(CASE) use the same syntax as Spoken English. Parents can pick up these systems in addition to having their children undergo speech therapy. It’s called meeting them halfway. There is NOTHING wrong with bilingual exposure. Is it a bad thing to know more than one language? I don’t think so. That gives them EVEN MORE opportunities to communicate and interact. Oralism only or ASL only actually limits interaction. They either have a hard time interacting with the hearing world or a hard time forming Deaf bonds and Deaf identities. Why can’t we give them both? Why do we have to deprive them of all the methods possible? And yes, it is deprivation, contrary to what Goldstein wants to think. We need children to be exposed to as much language as possible, which means both spoken/written English and signing. That would give them the best opportunities. I know some ASL users who have better grammar skills than hearing people. So, no, exposing them to more than one language doesn’t prevent them from learning another. It can actually help. Look at Europe: Students learn several languages. Particularly in Sweden, Deaf students are required to learn Swedish Sign Language and written/spoken Swedish. Why does that have to be bad? Sorry for the length, but this article is not helpful to the d/Deaf community. She’s just as divisive as she claims Nyle is. I just wish more people could understand the need for a middle ground. The world is not black and white, this or that. We need more moderate approaches, which, in the case of deaf education, would mean exposing children to sign AND English. That’s my opinion, at least. Perhaps I misinterpreted her meaning/intention with this article; I'm willing to admit it's possible. And I'm not saying that ASL-only policies are without their pitfalls. As stated above, we need to seek out a middle ground.

  • Gerardo Prosacco Reply

    I lost a huge reply when the page reloaded itself. \*sigh\* On the plus side you're probably getting a shorter reply. Maybe. I have a lot of favorites in the comic universe. I'm a big fan of the (former) Young Avengers like Kate Bishop (Hawkeye); Tommy Shepherd (Speed -- they could have done so more with him); Billy Kaplan (Wiccan/Demiurge, who, because comics are weird, is the reincarnated son of Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff and twin brother to Tommy); America Chavez (who's answer to anything is punch everything), etc. On the X-Men side I really like Emma Frost; Ororo Munroe (Storm); Quentin Quire (Kid Omega -- his development was the best thing to come out of Wolverine & The X-Men besides the Idie-Broo friendship); Alex Summers (Havok, the only reasonable Summers brother), Pietro Maximoff (technically he's on the Avengers/X-Factor side more), and Gambit is growing on me. For MCU, I still love Hawkeye. MCU!Clint is based off of Ultimates (earth-1610) Clint Barton, who is a badass assassin/soldier who is super competent. Versus 616!Clint, who is awesome and funny and kind of a mess but definitely has a killing is the last resort policy. Most my Hawkeye fights are MCU based where I try to explain no matter how cool Matt Fraction's version of 616!Clint is (with the Tracksuit Mafia, the Pizza Dog, and the awesome friendship with Kate Bishop) he's still not the basis for MCU!Clint. [Fanon!Clint might drive me a little bit nuts.] I've been a fan of Jeremy Renner since pre-The Hurt Locker (2008), which definitely helps. Outside of Hawkeye, there's Sam Wilson (who I love in comics, where he decided, upon taking over Captain America, that a political neutral Cap in an America that's destroying itself is bullshit). I really like Anthony Mackie's take no bullshit version of Sam in the movies. Steve Rogers has really grown on me. He's a sanctimonious *dick* in the comics, no question, but Chris Evans' version of the character has made a Cap that is both moral and not a dick about it. I really like Evans in general too, though, esp in Puncture and Snowpiercer. Daisy Johnson/Skye (Quake) is made of awesome. Her development through S2 and S3 of AoS is easily the best thing about the show. I also really like Grant Ward *and* Lincoln Campbell so I'm not over what the show did to either of them. I'm going to be bitter for a while that Grant didn't get a redemptive arc despite everyone *else* getting second or third chances (including Hyde, a serial killer!). My favorite Netflix Marvel character is Jessica Jones, hands down. I was really skeptical of Ritter in the role, as I only knew her from Veronica Mars, but she rocked it. And Jones is a female antihero of the likes that we almost *never* see. This is a male role that they put a woman in, a rape survivor at that, and just knocked it out of the park. So believable. So fucked up too. Luke Cage is probably my second choice. I really like what they've done with them and I'm super excited about his first series in September. Cannot wait. I'm not as sold on Matt Murdock. I like Charlie Cox in the role. I think he's done really well with what he's given and I have to give him props for so successfully pulling off a blind character, which has to complicate his acting X1000. But I have trouble getting a feel for him and he's felt really hypocritical right up until his series two finale confession with Elektra, which is my favorite Daredevil moment thus far. While I liked Kingpin in S1 I think the addition of Elektra and Frank Castle really gave the series a depth it needed. I will say it has some of the best fight sequences on television. I'm one of the few people I know who wasn't a big fan of Deadpool. I'm glad it was made. I'm glad we'll get another one. Ryan Reynolds is perfect in the role and he did great with the material he was given. But for 'not your average superhero movie' it was super formulaic, which detracted from the character in my eyes. I did love the TNW cameo (supporting character?), though. So much. So, why are Daredevil and Deadpool your favs? Do you watch AoS? If so, who's your fav there? If you're interested in learning more about HTML and CSS coding I highly recommend [this link](https://medium.com/@isisAnchalee/so-you-want-to-learn-how-to-code-7d9211231bcf#.1jzqlmoam), which talks about starting out and links to the great CodeAcademy, and [csstutorial](http://www.csstutorial.net). For ASL, I'd suggest [lifeprint](http://www.lifeprint.com). Unless you need credentials it's free and based on self-study. There's a forum where you can connect to others who are willing to Skype and practice. There's another resource website that I cannot find the freaking link to but I'll comment with it if I think of it. But if you want to refresh your skills this is a good place to go that's actually free and not just free for the very basic lessons. I mostly draw Marvel/MCU characters because comics-style is much easier to practice with than realistic portraiture. I also draw cats (my favorite thing) and owls (because pretty). I've been getting into [zentangle](https://www.zentangle.com) because it's pretty relaxing to do while I'm watching Netflix or the like. Plus, zentangle owls are [very pretty](http://img09.deviantart.net/30b4/i/2015/274/1/6/zentangle_owl_by_stephanieleyva-d9bmbuy.jpg) (not mine but look how pretty that is). I much prefer oil-based coloured pencils at the moment over markers or even my oil pastel sticks/chalks. EcoCity makes an [set of 72](https://www.amazon.com/EcoCity-72-color-Colored-Pencils-Coloring/dp/B013N5DXDY) that's good if you want a soft, blendable pencil and it's easily the best value for its cost since it's often about 60% off (like now). I'm not much into painting. Do you draw? If so, what? Also, I retyped almost everything so, yes, this is still shorter than the original comment would have been \**facepalm*\* Thanks for being interested, though, and i hope this wasn't too much information. [Edit: If you have an intro thread here already, please link it. If not, feel free to link it in the future. That is if you're not scared off yet.]

  • Tyrel Welch Reply

    In my head, probably [quantum levitation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6AAhTw7RA), but that requires a a magnet below a superconductor. Probably the same reason he can levitate and send out orbs. But apart from that, it doesn't make any sense how he can fire projectile energy from solid metal balls, that they can be deflected by a sword, and can send out certain balls to restore someone's health and injures (how?) and increase the severity and total damage taken by But hey, this a game where: - A woman who can fire a giant laser beam that impossibly stops at a set distance (light travels forever until absorbed), fire energy bombs (that irl wouldn't last as long as they do after firing), activate shields that inexplicably are able to form a perfect sphere around herself or a teammate without any collision, all while her single gun doesn't overheat more than having to open the core for half a second, the gun has a seemingly infinite and unexplained power source, oh and the the damage somehow blocked by her shields makes her weapon and her weapon more durable (how?) (Zarya) - A guy who's a musician and can roller-skate on any surface and even wall surf, can boost his teammates' physical capabilities in terms of speed and agility, as well as heal them through mere sound, and can make an sound blast that gives his team shields (are they made of sound? That's not how sound works. Is he boosting their physical capability like usual? Cause that doesn't make sense in the first place) (Lucio); - A senior citizen (he can receive partial benefits in most states in 2016) undoubtedly near age 60, with no signs of degradation to his body in terms of illness or aging or by illness or aging, and with a no (known) drawback super-soldier serum, granting him super-human speed, strength, and agility beyond even a peak-fitness young man, and those haven't decreased over the years and/or into old age either (Soldier: 76); - An unarmored human can soak up bullets despite his most vulnerable organs being easily target-able, he can throw a hook at a distance with enough strength to actually puncture the target and enough strength to pull them in and incapaciticate them briefly, and can heal himself with a simple inhalant (which many theorize to be a performance enhancer which would legitimately increase his healing but not enough to heal from bullets OR some regular inhalant like xenon which would nullify his pain, OROR, most likely given the setting is *"irradiated gas"* because in soft-scifi settings you build up an immunity and then benefit from it) (Roadhog); - A guy in a mask has cells that die and regenerate faster than possible, doesn't get cancer, and can become intangible and teleport (Reaper); - A woman who survived being frozen can instantly create ice walls, despite the fact there's not enough moisture in the air to create them at that size, there's nothing to absorb the heat, nothing to make sure the moisture freezes in that shape, can use ice to freeze herself and not die or sustain frostbite, and can also ignore rapid pressure changes within these ice creations (Mei); - A man who was brought back from near death with cybernetics can, alongside his brother, summon magic dragons because of his clan's tattoos (Genji and Hanzo respectively); - A girl can control her position in relative time, relative space, and the spacetime continuum, even after she and the molecules and cells in her body were "desynchronized" from the aspect of time itself (which should theoretically mean that she doesn't exist, since all movement requires passage through time. But it could also mean that she follows a separate dimension of time, which would then mean that she shouldn't be able to interact with our/Overwatch universe directly) (Tracer); - A gorilla, impossibly smarter than the gorillas that exist (more than possible with any amount of genetic experimentation), who is capable of fluent and essentially perfect human speech despite his species not having the physical ability to pronounce words nor the intelligence to understand and use a full language (chimps and gorillas have been able to convey concepts and emotions through ASL/BSL signs, but not lingual aptitude) (Winston); - A woman who can literally phase (potentially impossibly) complicated machinery and technology into existence with a wave or formation of her hand over and over again, provide unexplained added durability to team mates, phase a perfectly working teleporter into existence despite not even knowing the location of miraculously-created and linked other one (the teleporting itself I can let slide, because we have pretty sound theories about it) (Symettra); - Last, but not least, a woman using a staff that inexplicably heals someone's injuries or can increase the damage of their weapons, has knowledge of advanced cybernetics AND several languages AND exceptional medical expertise AND chemistry, able to turn a man into a super-soldier with super-human strength, speed, and agility that persists into old age (Soldier: 76), capable of bringing a man back to life with superhuman and cybernetically-augmented strength, speed, agility, reacton speed, and endurance (Genji), create a guy with faster cellular regrowth than Deadpool who can teleport and become intangible (Reaper), and resurrect people from death instantly and without any drawbacks (Mercy) Tl;DR Every character is asbsolutely ridiculous when looked at logically. I don't know if this was a serious post, but some people do take posts seriously, like one guy who was very offended by Winston's 'incorrect' "monkey" references and felt that it should be Blizzard's highest priority to change all of that content. I also wanted to write this up anyway.

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  • Lindsay Batz Reply

    This is gonna be long, I apologize! >I'm just trying to ask you to think a bit deeper to what makes a Deaf person. As much as I'd like to, I don't know what makes a Deaf person because that's not how I was raised; I'll get more into that further down. --- So, back to #1, I took the question as, "If you get your child CI, should you also teach them sign language?", not "Should you get your child a CI so they don't have to learn how to sign or lip read." Hope that clarifies my answer a little better for you. I agree with the former, and vehemently disagree with the latter; particularly for personal reasons. CI and Hearing Aids should be supplemental devices, not an absolute replacement. --- I learned how to talk despite the deafness, because my mother just yelled all the time, and when she wasn't home (I was left at home a lot as a young child she was really irresponsible), I'd put the TV on full blast and sit close so I could hear it, and I also got extremely proficient at reading lips. I was a very precocious child, and also one to want to be in the middle of everything, so I think that's what compelled me to try to learn how to talk. To be honest, I don't recall being taught how to speak properly; I just did my own thing without anyone bothering to correct me and my mom's efforts went mostly into teaching me how to read, something I started doing when I was at 3 or 4. My mom had me at 17, and knew something was wrong with me when I was about 6 months old (I was born with full hearing) but an unwed, teen mom who was living in a foster home with her baby wasn't taken seriously back in the 80's (she lived in the foster home until she turned 18, which was when I was about 7 months old, and then she got married to my first stepfather). She knew I was deaf, but reacted towards me in frustration because nobody took her seriously. The first school I went to while living with her thought I had severe mental retardation, and were pushing to put me in a special school, and completely ignored my mom's requests to test my hearing but my dad got custody of me before that happened; I was only there for about 5 or 6 weeks. I passed the tests at the new school with flying colors, so they were baffled as to why the first school I went to labeled me like that and sent me off to regular kindergarten. I was already reading much better than my peers, which kind of threw them for a loop. I was not allowed to handle books at my first school, they would take them from me because they though I'd just chew or color on them. The ENT that I was taken to when my D/deafness was discovered was just a really horrible person in general for several reasons 1. He told my dad I was going to be completely deaf at 40 (nine years away), but to not let me learn sign language because then I wouldn't be motivated to improve my speech impediment; I took 10.5 years of speech therapy for that; I guess it worked because people can't tell I'm D/deaf when talking to me; and are always surprised when they see that I wear hearing aids. This of course is in part due to the fact that my D/deafness is exclusively volume related, rather than quality of sound; if it's loud enough I have no problem with understanding or hearing it. What came out of my mouth when I was 5 was a perfect mimicry of what I heard; muffled and a *very* thick southern accent. The speech therapy corrected my accent, but when I'm around my maternal family (I live out of state from them; and my dad doesn't have a southern accent) I slip back into it. My dad was also teaching me Spanish at the time, and he told my dad to stop, because I would never learn how to speak English or Spanish properly; which is stupid because when I took Spanish in High School, I had a perfect accent; similar to what they do in Spain (they pronounce certain sounds differently and it's easier for me to make those sounds). One teacher when I transferred schools thought I was a native speaker. --- I guess at this point I can loop back around to your question a bit more. Objectively -and I know this isn't the reality of my life- I do not see myself as a D/deaf person who happens to talk, I see myself as a speaking person who just happens to have D/deafness. It's not intentional and a choice I made, it was forced on me as a child; and that's why my thinking can be taken as being backwards. Either way, I don't think I'm broken or that there's anything wrong with me. It's a small part of what makes me the individual that I am. My dad does deeply regret going against his instincts; he wanted me to learn ASL, and wanted to continue teaching me Spanish. I would have been fine with being tri-lingual and would have been able to do the spoken languages flawlessly. My dad and I did start using finger spelling to talk to each other across crowds when I was about 13, but it didn't always work; he's dyslexic and can't spell very well. I don't hold anger or resentment towards anyone. I'm very happy with my life and myself as a whole, and I don't hold any regrets. I do plan on finding out how to learn sign language, and will probably start that next year when my youngest child is in first grade and have a little more flexibility with my schedule. Even if the doctor's wrong and I never become completely deaf, it's always been a lifelong goal of mine to learn ASL, and it's really the first time that I'll be able to completely throw myself into it and have the means to do so. To be honest, not knowing sign language as a Deaf person who can also verbally communicate has cost me jobs, so if I ever enter back into the workforce (I'm a stay at home mom right now) it'll increase my chances of getting hired.

  • Parker Weissnat Reply

    I don't know the details for OTC, Norway doesn't have anything like that. However in general I wouldn't expect uni students to be as fit as actual full time soldiers of any kind. Not getting help is fairly common, it's the military way. The army loves so called "learning by burning". Interesting. It's not that your solution is bad, quite the opposite that is a reasonable way of going about it. The only problem with it is that it assumes things will go at least mostly as planned. Examples. If you'd been placed in an all girls team you would've been fucked, or if two of the guys broke an ankle, or someone dropped the mortar on a guys leg. What if one of the guys is a bit heavy handed with his backpack and dislocates his shoulder or he might even break something? Not only have you lost one mans carrying ability but you also have to carry what team equipment he had, his personal gear, and the guy himself. And we can go "yeah but it didn't happen", but the right way to say that is "it didn't happen that day". I used the backpack example because it happened to my squad once. Midwinter and halfway up a mountain. We had to cut him out of his backpack and vest, strap all the gear he had between the rest of us, ligthen a couple of the other packs even further so that 2 people could carry the injured guy and get him to a hospital. Essentially we had 3 people carry 5 people worth of personal gear along with all squad equipment, with the other two carrying half packs and a soldier. There is, naturally, a limit to how much you can prepare for such things. If half the team goes down you're fucked regardless of how strong the guys are. But infantry really cannot be put in a situation where any one person going down makes them ineffective. Basically, your solution is acually fairly good, the problem is that it only works in a perfect situation. Here is the thing though, one of the soldiers who was part of the particular squad set up when the shoulder incident happened was female. She managed to help carry just fine,. Things is she hadn't trained to pass the tests, she trained with the guys with the intent to keep up with us. So when shit hit the fan she did just that. Funnily enough that incident is what allowed her to become part of the group. She was transfered from a different unit, so she arrived way past the time us guys started to visibly cringe when told a girl would join us for anything. She was a medic specialist, so when the ASL went down screaming and swearing about his shoulder she came in real handy. We had a few girls from day one who was part of all the training and nobody could stand any of them. They just made life stressful and difficult for us and we could never relax around them because they would report people to officers for the stupidest bullshit. In comparison the new girl who joined late was a delight who became "one of the guys" pretty much as soon as people gave her a chance. Mostly because she adapted to our behaviour, didn't mind the sex jokes and crude humor, and participated in the banter and shittalking that goes on constantly. Nobody was scaree she was going to report us for any little thing so we could treat her like anyone else and she would handle it like anyone else. As an example of the last one. During a party evening at a local bar she'd been trying to get one of the local guys to take her home but been rebuffed (which was surprising, given her appearance). The guys asked her if they should go to a different bar and she said what roughly translates as "i'm not leaving until I get some dick", at which point the entire troop gathered around her, pushed her ahead of them so she was front and center. Then they got the attention of the entire bar and loudly chanted "I'm not leaving until I get some dick" as loud as they could. So she started doing poses while barely containing her laughing fit.

  • Zachariah Kulas Reply

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  • Laura Wehner Reply

    That's OK. I'm a teacher of the deaf (tod) who also knows VI. HOH myself. What's your visual accuity and are you a large print or Braille user? A teacher of the deaf is going to know about helping you with specific technology to maximize the use of your hearing, will help if you Decide to do ASL. They kind of bridge special ed, audiology, speech, and interpreters to help you communicate effectively. A good TOD can give you unbiased info on communication options, but can also be realistic with what other factors will hinder success. (Example: ASL might not be easy to use with low vision but if your hearing gets bad enough you might not be willing to have surgery for an implant. Chances are you will use hearing aids, but they aren't perfect either.) Late onset (what you have) of hearing loss is a different experience than deaf from birth or deaf in early childhood. You already read and have good language skills, so you won't need that addressed by a tod. You do need help knowing your options, learning about coping skills, meeting other people with hearing loss (or deaf blind, which will likely be what you are identified at your IEP re-evaluation because you have both.) Both your VI and TOD person can work on considerations for adulthood, mobility, telecommunications, and accessibility. If you cane for mobility, the hearing teacher and VI teacher can help you make adjustments so you can hear any sounds that give you environmental information. Don't forget, the IEP is boring, but it's your IEP. Go. Tell the team exactly what you need or want to achieve and advocate for yourself. You can get written into your IEP a goal for understanding your hearing and vision rights as a student and adult. You can set goals to explore communication options for long term planning. Sorry this was really long. Hope it helps. (also- lost my hearing at age 13. I get what you're going through.)

  • Devin Fisher Reply

    I'm 12 and not definitely an undercover FBI agent. Want to meet? ASL? Do you like young boys? Perhaps we should meet? I know perfect location. It is near FBI field office in <your location>. It has great diner nearby.

  • Jayme Rice Reply

    Two separate signs. First, the fire, using 2 hands and maybe off to one side, then the classifiers (CL) on both hands making a "C" shape to show the grip on a thick fire hose, spraying side to side in the direction of the fire you just established. Acting out the action and using good facial expressions is important here. This is a moment of "constructed action" in ASL, which is way more effective than our tendency in English to be all wordy and long-winded. You're demonstrating rather than describing, which ASL is perfect for.

  • Rosa Kuhlman Reply

    Right, this is a perfect example! In English, you would use "that" table. But the thing to remember, and I always have tried to stress to my students, is that ASL is not English. To become really proficient and eventually have the Deaf accept you, you'll have to learn to separate ASL from English. How to properly sign "Let's go sit at that table" would be something like: (Point to table) COME ON, WE SIT (there) (Use open flat hand to gesture to where the table is.) Hope this helps.

  • Eliane Torphy Reply

    Very very sorry to read about your situation. I want so much to offer some sort of consolation and support. I really, truly understand the depression…music has been the biggest, most important thing my entire life (since starting piano at the age of five). When one's (wetware) hearing apparatus is damaged or compromised in any way—short- or long-term—it can have a huge adverse impact on listening to, playing, performing, and audio engineering music. Tinnitus and the far more severe impairment of Hyperacusis are monsters of misfortune for music lovers. I had a similar sort of accident halfway through my thirties that brought on a type of tinnitus forcing me to wear earplugs at concerts, movie theaters, and while practicing, playing, and performing. Now it's 20 years later and I have a new condition that has forced me to stop listening to music altogether. I think in your case perhaps it's (practically) important to distinguish between the two very different impacts present: the loss of emotional enjoyment, and the repercussions on career advancement and viability. I do know one thing: the human will is an amazingly strong thing. I've got through losses that at the time seemed unbearable: an irreparable knee injury that means I can no longer run; loss of perfect 20/20 vision due to a motorcycle accident; and the more recent onset of hyperacusis, forcing me to leave the hearing world for the most part (have to wear -20dB earplugs all the time and it's also imposed the immediate cessation of music listening, TV viewing, telephone calls, most conversation with others). My plans are to possibly get the whole system replaced with cochlears (if necessary) and in the meantime learn ASL. There are many, many tinnitus communities with information and support out there. You might also consider [TRT therapy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinnitus_retraining_therapy), which has a growing following and apparently some viability. I'm not big on behavior retraining, so I don't know if it would help my tinnitus. (I wish there was something similar for hyperacusis, but apparently it's even more of a medical mystery.) Not to rain on others' support here vis-a-vis their encouragement that you can and should be "the next Beethoven," but having been a musician for 50 years and performing and recording for decades, it's just not that simple, folks.

  • Albina Lebsack Reply

    It really does not hurt to learn ASL as a family. Hearing aids, cochlear implants, they are not perfect solutions. Better than nothing, but not perfect. They can fail at times, go dead (batteries going dead), malfunction, etc. It's always a good plan to have the whole family be able to communicate with your daughter when she should have moments where she is completely deaf and will need the visuals to understand what is going on; lipreading is not a perfect science. At best, one will understand oh about 4% of what is being said when just lipreading alone, and more often than not, it'll be the unimportant words being understood. Absolutely, consider learning ASL. Do NOT let the professionals dissuade you from using signs (you may very well encounter those type 1of professionals who insist that the oral method is the best way to go, when in reality it may not be.... everyone is different). Explore your options, your family figure out what works for you guys. :) Call her deaf or hard of hearing. It is a matter of preference. Maybe later on she'll decide she is deaf, not hoh. Who knows. Use whichever one you are most comfortable with. Just an FYI: small 'd' deaf is more of a medical term, while big 'd' Deaf is a cultural identity.

  • Carroll Fisher Reply

    Okay assuming you are 100% getting them. To answer your first two questions, I'll tell you a bit about my story going deaf. Very similar to yours but much more rapid. I essentially when from hearing to deaf within one year. I did the same thing getting hearing aids and they were not functional for me after 3 months. At that point one ear went totally deaf and I had to make a decision quick. I was enrolled full time into college and had 0 interest in taking a year off (cause I'm super stubborn). But, I was almost completely deaf. I decided to get a CI in my deaf ear (and eventually in the other ear once it went deaf shortly after) in order to graduate college. I was also granted with CART and other resources from my school which helped a lot. If you are currently enrolled in college I suggest you email Disabilities Services. Cochlear implants would certainly help your situation. I chose to get them because I already relied on my hearing and was not fluent at ASL at the time. It was the solution I needed and I have no regrets. Of course it is not the solution for everyone. Your brain will rewire to the implant a lot faster than the average person since you were recently hearing, which means they will be able to make things a little easier for you pretty soon after you get them. However, I highly suggest you learn ASL. It will help you immensely. Implants are by no means perfect and additionally knowing ASL will get you much further. Plus it will help you connect with the rest of us and it's a super cool language :) With cochlear implants your situation will not get worse. In fact, going deaf in general is just an adjustment, not a tragedy. But the implants will help you ease into your new situation. Same goes for ASL. From my understanding if you get cochlear implants the rest of the hearing in that ear is just gone. This makes sense if you look at [how they work](http://kidshealth.org/EN/images/illustrations/cochlearImpant_420x315_rd1_enIL.jpg). You may be thinking of the baha, which grants additionally artificial hearing. This kinda answers the next questions about whether or not it will stop declination. Send more questions if you have any. I would be happy to share my Skype if you would like to chat if that is easier.

  • Hiram Terry Reply

    Enzo ASL For this being some guys first time with PA things went amazing. Our squad was on the radio, super squaded up, fully loaded the sub, and out to sea before anyone else. The extra time allowed me to start coordination with UAV. We knew exactly what we were facing and allowed us to select a different LZ because of it. Bypassing the coastal batteries we advanced directly to (what we thought was a downed pilot) crash site. Alpha maintained complete stealth. Enemies passed within inches and everyone held their ground. Excellent work by all. Demo charges placed we blew the helo and RVed with Bravo. Things heated up as we began the CQC assault of the compound. The tower clearing was by far some of he best CQC I've ever done. I wish I recorded it. With Kennedy on over watch we made short work of all the enemies. Afterwards we advanced to the coastal defenses. Not seeing a checkpoint we kind of ran directly into them. No problem for alpha. After a spectacular display of explosive work from grant we headed off. Half the team left after being told there was still another mission left. We attacked the final objective with 4 of the original squad. **Pros**: continued use of vanilla assets. It's working great and I'm loving it. Stealth really sold the mission. The covert insertion and trigger discipline were more exciting than the usual guns blazing. He use of recon and darter drone really shined today. We finally got great marks with accurate times and strengths. Multiple times I made SL decisions solely based on it. **Cons**. The mission ran long. Too long for my taste. We lost guys as a result and no one expected the additional mission. The final mission felt really out of place and thrown together. We went from a special forces divers with mini subs to a grand theft auto style ATV attack. It was weird and didn't fit the theme. IMO the mission was nearly perfect until then. Small suggestion: a couple times the UAVOperator had issues locating us. It might be nice to throw in a few IR grenades for the boots. Overall this mission was great. Alpha did amazing and I'm glad we had new guys on our squad. I'm looking forward to playing with them again. I also can't wait to start seeing this on Tanoa.

  • Abdullah Kessler Reply

    I can understand the perspective. For me, personally (and I'm speaking as a hearing person who hasn't lived in deaf culture the same way deaf people or children of deaf adults have), I'm extremely hesitant to form a judgment on cochlear implants. Cochlear implants are a complicated issue not just because it's seen as a way to "fix deafness," but also because of the social implications, the possibility of it not working, and lack of full information in making a decision. Cochlear implants are most effective the earlier they're implanted, which means that often times the decisions rests with parents to decide whether their children should receive an implant. It requires a great deal of therapy and support to get through. The vast majority of deaf children have hearing parents who are often not familiar with deaf culture, and often times, doctors don't discuss the option of learning sign language or placing children into schools for the deaf. It's hard to predict how well someone may do on cochlear implants, and sometimes complications do happen. And of course, cochlear implants are not perfect, and it won't be the same as how a hearing person might experience sound. At the same time, I've known people who have had cochlear implants who do well in both hearing and deaf culture, and I've also seen the same thing you have in terms of how deaf people might get ostracized for having an implant. There are a lot more aspects to this, including the history leading up to this and the experiences of individual deaf people and their experiences as a community as a whole. In conclusion though (and this may come off as a cop out answer), I personally don't believe this is something for me to cast my judgment on. I appreciate ASL and Deaf culture, but it is nonetheless not my culture and not something I have full understanding on the same way deaf people do. That said, I do agree that the vitriol toward those who get cochlear implants is unwarranted, but the decision as to whether or not deaf people "should" or "shouldn't" get cochlear implants is better left to that community.

  • Deion Wiza Reply

    I'm hearing but born to two deaf parents. Usually this is referred to as being a coda; or child of deaf adult. My first language is ASL. My parents usually only attempt English around English speakers, and in this case most hearing people don't understand them until they've spent a lot of time together. They both went to mainstream schools(hearing) and where they learned English but sort of shifted themselves into deaf culture later in life(went to deaf high school and college) and have stayed there(does that make sense?). I was usually their translator when dealing with the general public, once I became fluent in English around kindergarten age. Previous to that most of my language skills were ASL and the limited English I learned from tv. My younger brother was much faster to English because of his access to me in the home. We would speak A blend of ASL and English to one another at home. I think in ASL under some circumstances and English in others. For example while I type this I am clearly thinking in English but if I'm remembering a conversation I had with my mom I'm recalling it in ASL. I don't think that to the lay person(average hearing person) that ASL is given credit as its own language. People not familiar with deaf culture seem to assume ASL isn't it's own language (of which it very much is) they assume it's just a signing version of English, as in directly translated. The main similarity is finger spelling, usually names or things so obscure in normal conversations they don't have "official" signs There are concepts and ideas that only make sense in ASL to me. It's hard to come up with an example but I guess the best way to explain is they're things that are usually only pertinent to deaf culture. Sometimes I dream in ASL and sometimes I dream in English. It depends on the thought or concept but code switching can happen simultaneously or the dream can easily switch back and forth from English to ASL at a whim. I assume other bilingual persons have similar experiences. Anyway not exactly a perfect answer to the OP's post but pertinent nonetheless.

  • Carlotta Stehr Reply

    Hey fellow Washingtonian! I have so so much respect for the deaf community now. I have been met with some backlash from a few deaf people for getting a cochlear implant. They view the implant as saying there is something wrong with being deaf. All of the negativity I have faced have been from people who have been deaf their whole life. While I understand where they're coming from, my situation is different. I went my whole life being able to hear. Had I been born dead I don't know if I would have been implanted: I can't say. I respect their opinion but I don't think anyone should be able to criticize what anyone thinks is the best choice for them or their families. I have been asked if I would implant my baby if I had one that was born deaf. That's a hard question too. On one hand I'm all about embracing our differences and that everything happens for a reason. On the other hand the gift of sound is such a blessing and I would like to make their life as easy as possible. Yes, it sounds bad but I think their life would be easier being able to hear. Lots of people in the deaf community would give me serious grief for saying that. Again, just my opinion. The only thing I will say as a suggestion for "normal" people treating deaf people is we just wanted to be treated like every other person you meet. If you talk to someone and they inform you that they're deaf, please don't just ignore them or walk away. Most can communicate in some way or will try. Most can lip read and most can communicate with speech. It just sounds a little different. We are worth the effort, just like any other person. I'm ashamed to say that my husband asked me repeatedly to learn ASL in the beginning. In fact he took classes and I was resistant. I don't know how else to explain it other than I felt like by learning ASL I was accepting and admitting to myself that I was never getting my hearing back. That I was now deaf forever. Yes, in the beginning that was a horrifying thought. I know some will criticize me for that, but I'm not perfect. Far from it. Now yes, I am learning ASL along with my whole family.

  • Uriah Fadel Reply

    I'm happy being me, but that me could have been very different if I had been born a year earlier. Around when I became deaf, they started coming out with integration programs in public schools for deaf kids. So I went to a school that was basically a normal school, with a little class we would take instead of French Language (I'm in Canada) Before this you ended up getting shipped off to one of the schools that specialized in hard of hearing children. This was probably the catalyst that made me an integrated person rather than a Deaf Culture follower. I have no doubt I would have integrated into Deaf Culture well, I was 100% deaf and still young. Some of the kids in the integrated program came from the specialized programs and they were very 'different' socially and had a lot harder time fitting in with the new kids than I and it became an us vs them environment. (not saying the hearing kids cared much at all that we were there) Out of the kids in the school I was in, I was the only one completely deaf, the others had some ability to hear or had hearing aids but still, the Culture leaves its mark on you. So I went through public school, and high school, and I can tell you it was very difficult to learn things in my situation. So I dropped out and worked instead when I was about 16. Around 20 I was going through that thing, I guess, lots of young adults do, trying to identify with something, so I took an ASL course and tried to get involved in Culture, but I was promptly rejected! Maybe not enough street cred. So anyway, your question- to each his own I guess. There are some things they do that I do not agree with at all, such as not allowing kids to have cochlear implants, but I guess I can also understand that people born deaf being raised to integrate may not be considered a very rich life at all by the Culture. I'm was able to develop the tools I needed to survive outside of it by the time I was deaf so it was ok, not perfect but certainly to the extent that its more appealing to me than being in the Culture.

  • Mabelle Rippin Reply

    This is a really offensive diatribe here. OP's thoughts are his or her own. You're free to refute them, but this isn't discourse and disagreement, this is vitriol and toxicity. Unless you're an interpreter who deals with this stuff, you really have no basis for which to speak on this part of the issue. ASL interpreters do the herculean task of Interpreting for a language minority who doesn't even know their own language. They aren't taught it the way every other language gets taught. There are no older language models, and there is a miniscule, but growing amount of media. As a native English speaker from the US, I would be pretty terrible interpreting into British English, despite hearing it plenty and understanding a lot of it. Many accents in the UK and **tough** and they use different words. Luckily if I spoke American English *they'd* understand *me*, not the other way around. Similarly with African English, which is *really* hard to understand. The amount of language variation that interpreters encounter on any day is staggering, and we have to be perfect every time. Our job would be a lot easier, and Deaf people would get better results from their interpreters if Deaf people actually used ASL. Again, your post is offensive, it's abusive, and frankly, it's disgusting. The interpreting field is crashing and burning right now, and this kind of response from Deaf people really just shows that were viewed as the help, rather than partners. If this keeps up you won't have much of a choice between interpreting or captioning.

  • Antwon Wolff Reply

    Okay, first off, MASSIVE comment! Thank you so much for the great read. I really like ASL so far, I can move when I speak, which gives me something to do. I have ADHD, so if I'm not moving I get bored quickly. I'll do a few practices standing, record, and get back to you, I will have to stand farther back to be seen well, and for my final video I will need to find a better camera. That way I'm not all over the place blurry. The document I made is all in ASL GLOSS, its as far as I think I need to get it, if I can get it better then I shall. Via more of doing as you said and break it down more and keep its feel. So its not something brand new and completely apart but able to be linked right to the original song. I'm practicing daily, I do like my version of it, but I feel too slow compared to it, seeing I fell behind. I had a after school class that was kinda useless, and was a lot of boring reading, so to get through it I started fingerspelling EVERYTHING. "3:30"? And this part is where I start falling behind at your meaning. I blame the blur of the webcam as part of why I am dirty. I do know I am not perfect, but as far as my experience goes, I am just right. I'm not crazily good, and not horrid, which I like being in my little area where people can understand me and I can understand myself, where I'm not too slow not too fast. Thanks for that comment, its gonna help, if you would like I can PM you and share my document version of my GLOSS script.

  • Karl Feeney Reply

    Woohoo ASL and Hannibal: RvC. Alright so ASL is a mega complex war game that takes place in WW2 and is known for being quite... obtuse to learn. I absolutely love ASL and am glad I have put the time into learning it. That being said.... you're not gonna have much fun (well, perhaps!) re-referencing the rulebook and ensuring each move/action you do is legal but that is definitely a side-point considering how fantastically immersive the game is. Same idea w/Hannibal: RvC it is a card-driven war game that is quite a classic and still has very strong legs in my NSHO but it will fall into the spending time internalizing and digesting (synonymous I guess) the ruleset and understanding what needs to be done. Great games. Any of the LCG/TCG lifestyle games like netrunner can be kind of rough due to the overwhelm of cards. That being said, a base box set is plenty to enjoy. I do enjoy the netrunner. BattleCON is another excellent game that will have a chess-like plodding approach but tons of depth and will take replays with the same gaming partner (in your case: perfect) and exploring of all the options. Very easy to just be like huh ok that's neat let's try another character. Don't. Stick w/them and move on only when you feel completely solid on rules/flow/possibilities.

  • Ceasar Conn Reply

    You're right, google was great from the start. Shitty comparison on my part. My point was that sometimes things start out looking completely useless or terrible but CAN improve given enough time and imaginative problem solving. Maybe I'm just more optimistic when it comes to the future of tech and translation. I've watched the youtube auto captions come a long way even though they are still not perfect. I've watched speech to text get more accurate even with someone like me speaking. So I envision that it can only improve. Even for nuanced poetry translation. I'm not as concerned with context in translation. I'd be ok with basic word to sign and sign to word translation even if it won't be possible for every word or sign. Some will be translatable. Despite translation from english being a nightmare, there still ends up being a demand for english books being translated to other languages. I've used ASL with my mother often without facial expression. It's like signing in monotone. It doesn't mean communication or understanding is impossible it just means it's emotionless or without passion. So I disagree that ASL *relies* on context. Never say never I think. Give tech the time and resources and the impossible can happen..

  • Cordelia Hyatt Reply

    I don't think the concept is viable. ASL isn't just about hands. I took ASL to help me understand facial expressions and body movements. ASL sentences start in the eyebrows. Before you start signing, your eyebrows determine the kind of sentence (! . ?). If you have multiple subjects (or places or even tenses) you distinguish them by body shifts. Leaning forward is used in all kinds of ways, grammatically and for emphasis. Most importantly ASL isn't in the same order as English. If I wanted to say "Can you put that book on the table?", I'd first raise my eyebrows, lean towards you, point at you, point towards the book, sign book, then do the sign for put in the direction of the table (possibly in context I might sign table next if I though you could be confused). So directly to English that is, "You that book put table". That's assuming there is some way you can distinguish "you" and "that" which are both just pointing. Telling stories and making jokes are way more complex. There are people, movement, and imagery. I've seen signs that I'm sure we're made up on the spot and have no translation, but we're 100% understandable in that context. My ASL grammar might not be perfect, since I took ASL so long ago. I'm sure a fluent signer could come up with a better examples.

  • Wilbert Cartwright Reply

    Word of advise from someone who knows ASL, it'll be so much easier to pick it up if you're practicing with someone regularly. Which would be perfect if you were dating. Also, as others have said, she will greatly appreciate that you're putting in effort to learn her native language.

  • Camden Feest Reply

    > Did you really just say we should just call all systems of signing ASL? No > Why do you think different variations exist? Same reason as spoken language, why else would they. Theyre different languages I never said otherwise > Because its NOT ASL AND LABELING IT AS SUCH is wrong. See now this is where the jump in logic comes in. Different sign languages exist, therefore two labels can't apply to one idiolect at the same time? "No such thing as overlap" Wow, you really know your shit about linguistics bruh. [Dialect continuum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialect_continuum) - perfect example of a blurred line between "language" and "dialect". It's both, and neither. If you knew anything about anything you were talking about you'd know that. > I honestly dont know how you've never heard of a PSE, this is basic knowledge if youre even remotely interested in deaf culture and their community. ASL is my first fucking language I've been in the deaf world my whole life nice try though. As for not knowing about PSE, maybe the deaf (and Deaf) people I know aren't self-satisfied assholes? > Are you deaf? Are YOU deaf? You should have said so, along with your actual argument/citations. Oh wait

  • Arnulfo Hayes Reply

    Don't listen to anyone who says it has to be either/or. Pfft. It's not a competition. Use both. I do. Cued speech has helped me immensely with my lip reading skills and education. Several of my hearing friends and family have learned it, including my husband. (It comes in handy on those occasions where lip reading fails.) ASL is a wonderful language that keys you into a rich community full of lovely folks. That said, the hearing community is full of lovely folks, too--there's no need to trade one for the other. Fight to be a part of both worlds. You won't be learning ASL until this fall, right? So this summer would be the perfect time for you (and your parents) to learn cued speech. There's no reason you can't learn two modes of communication. The brain can handle far, far more than that ;) I recieved a cochlear implant a couple of years ago and love it. I hear so many sounds I never could before. I can talk to my husband without looking at him. I can hear my dog breathing. Fire crackling. Leaves rustling. It's more awe inspiring than I could have imagined. For someone like you, with a strong history with hearing (unlike me, profoundly deaf since I was a baby), it would be way better. I would at least consider it. Lindsay Jean

  • Leonard Veum Reply

    Yes, of course there is ASL slang. /u/TheKraken_ [sez](/r/videos/comments/4pwm56/this_guy_does_sign_language_for_rap_songs_he_has/d4ofod3) > There is a very distinct feel to Ebonics-influenced ASL. I don't think there's a direct parallel to AAVE's relation to standard English, but I do know that, due to the history of deaf schools in the U.S. (and the same reason for AAVE in the first place, i.e. separate speech communities) there is a distinct dialect of ASL used by many Deaf African Americans. Additionally, it would make perfect sense that ASL in contact with AAVE would take on some features of that variety, just as Spanish spoken in Miami or Gibraltar will acquire some features from English, or Swedish spoken in Finland will acquire features from Finnish, etc. Whether this signer incorporates African American features into his sign I can't say. EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_American_Sign_Language Also, shout out to /r/asl and [/r/captionplease](/user/MadeUAcctbutIEatedIt/m/ytcc)

  • Hettie Gerlach Reply

    I disagree with your disagreement of my statement and stand by my original statement. We agree that this fellow is signing PSE, which I have stated in other comments is due to the OSV format he is using. In regards to my statement which you disagree with: Johnny is having a conversation and he signs five sentences. They are all SVO and they use all the rules of ASL. Johnny has just signed in perfect ASL. Now, Johnny signs another five sentences and he uses OSV format and they follow all other rules of ASL. Johnny has just signed in PSE, but it was very close to ASL because the only difference was the OSV formatting. Johnny signs another five sentences. Johnny signs every article and conjunction in the sentence, but uses SVO format. He has just signed in PSE but it is much more reminiscent of Signed English due to every word having its own sign. Lastly, Johnny signs five sentences, using OSV ans signs every word. He has just signed using Signed English. This situation describes four shades of the Signed English -> ASL spectrum. There are so many shades of grey that can be achieved that I could do my dissertation on it.

  • Louisa Gleason Reply

    Here's my 2 cents: Phase 1: As other people have said, perhaps ask your teammate, BUT I would think that you could sign "we" (two fingers gesturing between you) and "change" (two fists that rotate) Phase 2: You got it. Sign "Hurt" and then point to where on your back. If hurt anywhere else, sign "hurt" where you are injured. Ex: If your head, sign "hurt" around your forehead area. Phase 3: a few signs would suffice for this. In asl, words like "that" and "was" don't really exist, so just the word will do. 1) "Cool" (thumb and index to cheek OR thumb to chest with flat hand and wiggle fingers) 2) "Perfect" (two "f" hands in one quick motion) Phase 4: You're right that the two signs are similar, but in asl there are many signs that are the same, it's allll about context and very minute distinctions. In any event, your friend will be happy that you are taking the time to learn how to communicate with him effectively in HIS language. Talk to him, too. I'm sure he would show you some signs as well. Learning ASL is all about immersion so signing with him will definitely improve your skills! Good on you for this. Too many people don't even try.

  • Clifford Raynor Reply

    I always figured that while Sabo and Ace were magnificent fighters Luffy was always the strongest one. He was just always outclassed by his older brother Ace in Goa by pure skill. Then I feel I should point out that Sabo is way stronger than Ace purely because instead of growing up in the wilds of a backwater east blue island he was trained for a solid decade into being a hardcore Rev who could succeed Dragon if things went tits up. Ace was a master at using his fruit and probably an incredible hand to hand fighter too but he didn't have Haki or rather didn't know how to use it properly and never bothered to learn. Therefore with Luffy (who as a fourteen year old was capable of smashing the sides out of mountains if the ASL arc was any indication) and his ridiculous brute strength and honed battle instincts was to gain both proper training in Haki and given the opportunity to perfect his Devil Fruit powers even more I see no reason why he shouldn't become much stronger than his Brothers. At the moment I see him as stronger than Ace and equal with Sabo, maybe a little less experienced due to age but the combat potential balances out.

  • Kristoffer Cassin Reply

    Simple numbers. There are over 440k words in english. Many mean the same thing with only slight variance in the meaning they convey. There are about 10k unique signs in ASL. Other than the numerical imbalance in unique units, the information is encoded into the signs in various ways such as duration, sharpness, acceleration, repetitions, and most importantly facial expression. There is a perfect example from the video this comment section is from. The first line of the song is "If Piro's and Crips, they all got along"... Without hearing the actual words "Piro's" and "Crips", without looking at his mouth, there is absolutely no grammatical information to indicate who the two parties are. This does not matter in ASL. For all intents and purposes it is perfectly fine to call this an ASL cover. If this was Signed English the deaf person would know the names of the parties in the song. I call this PSE because the syntax is english syntax. In order for it to be "purist" ASL, everything would have to be reordered into SVO (Subject, Verb, Object) order rather than the OSV format used by english.

  • London Ledner Reply

    I took SOCI1001, SOCI1002, GEOG1020 and ASLA1010. By far and wide, ASLA1010 was my favourite course at Carleton. Second and third would be Sociology. Why? How awesome and eye opening is it to learn sign language?! I've had numerous basic conversations in ASL with random people and they appreciated it so much. The professors that teach it are amazing people. As for sociology... At first it was an ego thing. Many girls in that class were shocked that an Engineering major was taking their mandatory class as an elective. But after the first and second lecture, I was hooked. That class was awesome. It was the perfect break from all the formulae and theory of engineering courses. I learned so much and met so many great people. My weeks used to go slow because I couldn't wait for the next class and what odd social experiment the prof would make us do. Our assignments were something along the lines of... "when you ride an almost empty bus or visit an almost empty coffee shop, sit next to a person. They will feel awkward. Talk to them about anything. Now write a one page report about it." Damn, I miss uni.

  • Art Metz Reply

    For a student? If you are looking for *very* part time, it's perfect! You can get a few hours a week (think under 10 usually), get on payroll, and reap the benefits ( [check here](https://www.reddit.com/r/GameStop/comments/4sr4li/what_are_the_benefits_of_working_at_gamestop/) for a discussion on that). When you would be working depends on the store. Some have GAs only during the week, some only during the weekend, some like myself have them every day! I was a GA for my 3rd year as an undergrad. It worked beautifully with my schedule because I was class heavy. I was SGA for my 4th year, worked well because I had more time. I am ASL now and going to grad school. It works fine for me. But your results may vary. It depends on your class schedule, involvement, study habits, work habits, and a variety of other things. As for the company going under, it won't be gone while you're in school more than likely. It will be a good chunk of years before we're gutted if we don't find a solution to our issues. Our problem lies within corporate and their disconnect with stores and the market.

  • Abagail Corkery Reply

    *ASL Nook* and *Signing Time* are two of the better resources I know of. You'll find plenty of information with a quick Google search or trip to your local library, but I'd caution you to be discerning about these things. A **lot** of what's out there is produced by hearing people who feel as though they've jumped on a lucrative bandwagon, but have no knowledge of or respect for Deaf culture or ASL as a language. Many books will teach incorrect or "modified" signs under the pretense of making it easier for little hands, but consider this in the same light you would with English. You don't teach a child to speak English by pronouncing it incorrectly to them. You model it appropriately and allow them to make their own best effort with the knowledge that it won't be perfect, but it will grow as they do. So if your goal really is to introduce your daughter to a rich language and all its cultural benefits, don't settle for the "bandwagon" manuals. Sheena, Manny, and Shaylee of *ASL Nook* are all deaf, and Rachel of *Signing Time* has a deaf daughter.

  • Edmond Sporer Reply

    My answers: Kid's book Follow My Leader: boy goes blind in an accident and has to get used to a seeing eye dog. Heartwarming. In some of the Avengers comics, Hawkeye is Hard of Hearing and speaks ASL. Nothing uplifting like a disabled superhero - and don't forget Daredevil is blind! For those with mental illness as their disability, there are several books of people choosing to live, but they also emphasize the struggle, so I'm not sure you could call them uplifting. Girl Interrupted, House Full of Insects, Prozac Nation, just Checking... Recently read Penny for Your Thoughts: Lessons Learned at a Suicide Hotline; the narrator also struggles with depression/suicidal thoughts, but fights back against them (book itself was half funny, half serious). There's also the self-help book How I Stayed Alive When My Brain was Trying to Kill Me. I know these are not perfect examples. I'm eager to see what others add to this list. Good luck!

  • Waldo Bayer Reply

    Sorry, but the same way a kid can be taught verbal English and written English, you can teach deaf kids written English and ASL. There's not limiting them to learn written English. I know a lot of deaf kids that write perfect English. The problem is that a lot of Deaf schools doesn't teach English to them or teach it poorly as an useless second language. But it's not useless. It's the official language of their country. The country they live. All books, news, sites are written in English. There's not preventing them from reading and writing English like anyone else. It's just stupidity of the people that run these schools. If they want to be a real bilingual school that really improve the life of their students, they need to start having the same approach of other bilingual schools that teach English and French or English and German. In these schools kids learn both languages equally and left understanding both of them perfectly.

  • Ashley McKenzie Reply

    Kid's book Follow My Leader: boy goes blind in an accident and has to get used to a seeing eye dog. Heartwarming, In some of the Avengers comics, Hawkeye is Hard of Hearing and speaks ASL. Nothing uplifting like a disabled superhero - and don't forget Daredevil is blind! For those with mental illness as their disability, there are several books of people choosing to live, but they also emphasize the struggle, so I'm not sure you could call them uplifting. Girl Interrupted, House Full of Insects, Prozac Nation, just Checking... Recently read Penny for Your Thoughts: Lessons Learned at a Suicide Hotline; the narrator also struggles with depression/suicidal thoughts, but fights back against them (book itself was half funny, half serious). There's also the self-help book How I Stayed Alive When My Brain was Trying to Kill Me. I know these are not perfect examples. I'm eager to see what others add to this list. Good luck!

  • Osborne O'Kon Reply

    Meningitis? Medications? Meniere's disease? Explosion? Any of those work really easily. Some are more high interest plot worthy. Things I find annoying in characters as a late defended person: (a) everyone instantly knows ASL/sign upon becoming deaf- nope doesn't happen and you won't have an interpreter for everything in life; (b) hearing aids give back perfect hearing- nope. It helps, but doesn't give normal hearing back; (c) speech reading is perfect- lie...few are highly skilled, (d) everyone who knows you are hard of hearing remembers and helps you have equal access- very few people understand and remeber; (e) you maintain normal relationships- acquired hearing loss is depressing and frustrating; (f) deaf voice- some get it, some don't Feel free to pm me. I'd gladly talk more about gained hearing loss.

  • Ariel Smith Reply

    Definitely check it out, RIT is fantastic. It's a great education, affordable, perfect for Deaf people and the LGBT scene has so many options. There's a queer women's group on campus that's pretty great, plus a huge social group where everyone is connected. I spent 4 years there and only got to know about 1/2 of the community. There's a great party scene that the LGBT people put on so you can party with your people, but at the same time if you'd prefer to lay low there's plenty of options there as well. Almost everyone knows basic ASL and the community is super accepting, not to mention that there's an entire Deaf LGBT community as well as the overall one. I still know most of the people in the community there and they're great. Definitely check it out and message me if you have any questions.

  • Hank Prohaska Reply

    Yes there is. I'm Hard of Hearing and culturally Deaf. I went to a School for the Deaf, so I kinda qualify to answer this question. Everyone has an accent, even in ASL. Your vocal cords define your accent, and your accent is your natural voice and usually your accent is based off your mother's tongue. ASL users specifically has "accents" as much as their hearing counterparts who speak. Accents in ASL are looked at based on how the person signs. It's very hard to explain in complex detail so I will try to ELI5 an example. An accent in ASL is defined based on your natural hand movements from one word to the next. Here is a perfect example I found on [Youtube] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arSTr-wAYWQ). ( Just keep watching until the two girls sign together. )

  • Corine D'Amore Reply

    In regard to persistent vegetative state and its ilk: This is a huge reason to stay confessed-up. Perfect contrition is real, but there can be no guarantee for it. As for other disabilities: If intellectual, so you can't conceive of the concept of sin, I'd argue you never leave the childlike state, so you never commit a mortal sin. If physical (such as deadness), there are procedure in place to accommodate ([Fr. Brancich, FSSP](http://www.latinmassomaha.org/#!older-sermons/c11z) knows sign language, so he can hear confessions that way, other priests know ASL, too). There are also TTY-type systems that help, further, the penitent only needs speak, not hear counsel, so they can just speak to a priest.

  • Chesley Schmitt Reply

    Not deaf, but dated a deaf person for a few months + another who knew many deaf people, so take this with a grain of salt. I was told that ASL and English are similar but not, and therefore there are differences in grammar and sentence structure. There was an example /u/Eddles999 used earlier: > signs "Hello..... name..... me.... j......o.....h........n" I believe that's a perfect example. The person isn't saying my name is, just in German one says "Ich heiße LightningJynx" *literally* I am called LightingJynx. Yes, most people would know it means "my name is ..." in English, but that's just one of the many differences. Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.

  • Delpha O'Hara Reply

    You're welcome! /u/LightningJynx is exactly correct - ASL/BSL grammar is totally different to English grammar. There's the additional issue that a lot of deaf people had poor education so they weren't taught English properly. The average reading age for profoundly deaf school leavers in the UK is age 8 even today. I'm part of the tiny minority of profoundly deaf BSL users with good English. Although I know my English is not perfect, I'm aware I do make plenty of small mistakes but I don't know what. I have a good friend who is intelligent, but have very poor English, often ask me to translate English articles for them.

  • Johnny Swaniawski Reply

    Please don't take offense or think I'm being patronizing. But your writing is perfect. I've taken a lot of Deaf Culture/ASL classes at my local community college. One of the professors is Deaf, in his 50s and he struggles with writing a sentence in grammatically-correct English. We've had to have his interpreter explain what he meant on test questions. And there's a kid in his 20s (who is also Deaf) who I friended on Facebook. I can't understand anything he writes there. I have to try to translate it into Sign to figure out what he means. Were you mainstreamed as a kid?

  • Vivian O'Kon Reply

    K, bye have fun doing whatever you want to do. Maybe you just couldn't get hired because you aren't flexible, or skilled enough to communicate effectively with anyone not using pure ASL. Google pretty dumb, and works well if you have a perfectly formed, grammatical sentence to type in. Skill is being able to communicate when receiving code switching, or non-perfect English or whatever. If you want to behave like a robot, go ahead.

  • Abby Hessel Reply

    In ASL, you would be using both hands, and it is the movement of your hands that would be the sign for perfect. The F handshape is a classifier in ASL. A lot of different signs use the same classifier, but your hand movement, facial expressions and other non-manual markers (shoulder movement, mouthing eye shifts/gazes, etc) can completely change the meaning of a sign. /off soapbox

  • Timothy Wolf Reply

    I really believe in schools teaching sign language, at least basic sign language. Then I also believe in a unified sign language instead of bsl and asl etc to stop confusion. I understand this will be hard as people have already learnt both, but in my little perfect world, if everyone was taught the basics for world sign language everyone can talk to everyone.

  • Erik Bergstrom Reply

    Ever since I left high school I haven't been around anyone that knows sign language so I never took the initiative to learn. There's probably a lot of helpful resources online to help you in learning ASL, and like a lot of things, practice makes perfect. Good luck!

  • Lila Schinner Reply

    I'm curious to see how Deaf people answer your question because I've been in your situation. One thing that helped me is to start the conversation with "Hi, I know little-bit ASL," so they know right away I'm not going to be perfect.

  • Adam Jones Reply

    In my asl class I was that kid whose facial expressions were perfect and amazing but also a little too much. People thought I was deaf at the asl meetups because I just copied what they did ironically/unironically sometimes.