In case you missed it: TV host Mike Rowe ('Dirty Jobs') responding to a redditor's request that he stop sleeping with his wife in her dreams

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  • Antone Dooley Reply

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  • Yasmin Schinner Reply

    I'm a fucking white male who may be gay for Mike Rowe. Don't tell my wife.

  • Ramon Gibson Reply

    "and I do work for a living?"(your quote) I don't think you know or not. Oh the anonymity of the internet is beautiful isn't it. Well I do budgets for TV shows and documentaries and he is not making millions per show, the network is. His show was on for almost a decade showing hard working blue collar Americans. Not kids that got to go to Division 1 schools. Are you in debt from Clemson? Do the Feds or Sallie Mae have you locked in at an outrageous interest rates that will take you years to pay off and probably hinder your ability to pursue your dreams. Or did your parents cover it? I'm a member of a Gold Star Family and I work in the filming industry that I love, and I had to struggle through to make it to where I am. I was lucky enough to receive my brothers SGLI(Service group life insurance) Because he didn't have a wife or children. He made me become debt free for giving his life for this country. If you are struggling with student debt, Mike Rowe is trying to fight for you. He is using his fame to help today's youth, so please do some research about Mike before you make me out to be an asshat for posting a picture of a man I respect. Clemson will lose.

  • Mathilde Stracke Reply

    These were the jobs the American middle class was built on in the post war boom era when the industrial centers in Europe were destroyed. We were able to repurpose factories used for the war effort and start churning out goods. These jobs allowed families to live off one income and have the wife stay at home and raise the kids. Due to globalization and the fact that Europe was able to rebuild its industry, the US was no longer able to maintain a monopoly on manufacturing. So in a sense its nostalgia. Many who grew up in these industrial centers in the US would like to see that lifestyle return as their parents and grandparents talk about it nostalgically. Others also touched on the practical aspect of it: they are jobs that you don't need an education for. However, therein lies the problem. They were low skill high wage jobs. In an era of robotics and automation as well as globalization these jobs are more easily outsourced AND it makes sense for companies to do this so as to make a bigger profit. As a side note, there could be a focus on high skill manufacturing jobs which require learning a trade. Mike Rowe (of Dirty Jobs fame) heavily promotes this because there is a shortage of skilled workers in the United States. Its not glamorous and high schools (and other forces) have been pushing for everyone to go to college. Now we have a glut of college grads overqualified for the most entry level menial jobs. High skilled trade jobs provide a good wage with which you could raise a family.

  • Tod Kub Reply

    If you don't want to vote, by all means do not. However, do not discourage others to vote, and do not peddle more asinine bullshit like Mike Rowe hot takes on the current political climate. The dirty little secret about his argument is that voter apathy is what fucking caused this shitstorm we're in. The less people who have a say in who gets elected the more fringe that candidate will be. Discouraging more voters to vote will only exacerbate that situation. I'm sorry that no one likes their candidate but at the end of the day someone had to vote for them to get to this point. How about his argument be "Go out and canvass for your candidate, make it your duty to educate others and put forth your best argument for why you see the world the way you do." Not "Fuck it, don't vote!"

  • Miller Wolf Reply

    I used to love Mike Rowe. I miss those days. Blaming the American electorate for this mess is like feeding your dog nothing but Flaming Hot Cheetos for a year and then blaming it for dying.

  • Rhoda DuBuque Reply

    It would surprise me if it didn't work out. If I was just a touch more cynical, I'd say it was a signed deal before he "auditioned". The main advantages are that he's a recognizable personality who has identified himself as an advocate for trade job training, has professional singing experience and training, and wants to do it. He may get as much out of it from contributions to his charity as they can afford to pay him. The race isn't likely to sell any more tickets, but there are choices that could lose ticket sales. I need to make a helmet for my wife's life sized Mike Rowe photo now. She dreamed about him when she was pregnant with our second boy. These went on sale at the same time, so I got one for her so she wouldn't be lonely in the hospital when I was away with Boy 1. Now we hide it where guests are not expecting it. Until we moved, it was in the guest bathroom. He'll be much cooler with a racing helmet.

  • Agustin Abshire Reply

    Mike Rowe is hot!

  • Faye Robel Reply

    Check out Mike's Rowe's video on learning to like what you do for a living rather than pursuing your dream job. It's been posted up here a million times. Sorry they lied to you in school, but nobody ever gets a dream job. My whole career has been spent working jobs that "aren't me" but have allowed me to race bikes, be in a band, travel, have a family, house, decent car, etc. Be "you" outside of work. I hated my current job for over a year. It was a stressful nightmare, 5x more work than my previous role, and I wanted out. But I adapted, earned the respect and trust of coworkers, and 5 years later was making 1.5x more in what is now a very stable, predictable role. They sent my wife and I on a cruise as a company "MVP" not too long ago. You're young, you can cope. You can bring some innovation to the new position once you figure it out.

  • Dandre Upton Reply

    hot af, super sexy, dirty mike rowe. hnnngggggggggg!!!!! /r/ladyboners

  • Hadley Veum Reply

    Watch dirty jobs with Mike Rowe, its a good show, sure you can find episodes online. The jobs they do visibly throw Mike off a lot of the time, but the guys doing it look like they could be pouring themselves a cup of coffee for all they care. When you aren't around beautiful girls a lot, they throw you, and take you right out of whatever zone you're in. Find a way to be around beautiful women, and suddenly they lose that power. I was on a team, lots of girls, 8,9 10 girls only. After a few months, hot girls didn't throw me anymore, because it was just an every day thing. That's not to say my wheels were much better for it, it doesn't suddenly make you James Bond, but I was shocked or intimidated any more.

  • Christa Daniel Reply

    Oooooooooookay This is a heavy watered down version of the story but with all gasps aside I got some questions that need some answering and fast. Let me just start off by saying i'm not trying to prove anything to anyone on this thread and i have no problem, nor discriminations, that I currently know of, towards any sexuality or group of people as I am often a lone wolf in most social situations since the mother effin shit storm started. I was born into a secular family and raised on the shores of New Jersey growing up I had a very normal life (or so I thought) playing football, being quite attracted to women, and yeah looking back I definitely knew what an attractive guy was, but for the most part I was completely oblivious to how the real world worked, thought I was way better at reading people than I actually thought I was, and still do, and just kinda genuinely did things and thought things were how they were. Socially I was sort of a logical sloth if you will. I proceeded on into sixth and seventh grade becoming more and more jealous of all the popular kids who seemed to have all the girls at their disposal, and since I only had a few close guy friends I literally started to manifest more and more friends, popularity and girls into my life just by simply hoping for it starting in fifth and sixth grade. By eighth grade puberty had gone completely normal, puberty started by finding some porn on my dads computer in the fourth grade, seeing a late night cinemax whore house documentary (jerking off to girls for the first time) and then finally seeing Brande Roderick in that Starsky and Hutch movie in 2007 had me completely infatuated with women from there on out. Every girl that walked by's tits and ass were stared at and I was completely in love with a womans body, even though I was completely blind when it came to how I should communicate with them. This went on for a very long time. I continued to try and do things to make myself cooler, more personable, and just did everything I could to evolve from the sloth I knew myself as in elementary school, to eighth grade where I wanted to be nothing short of a badass without being mean to anyone. I moved from New Jersey to Minnesota in 2009 when my parents got divorced and once again, things were very normal (as compared to now) ya know, made friends very quickly as a freshman/ sophomore in high school, played football, had a girlfriend for all of high school, very healthy, active sex life, loved staring at her ass and all the girls tits in the hallways ya know. Minnesota is where it started to get weird. Thee most popular kid in the high school, ill leave his name blank just to protect hid identity but basically took a liking to me it seemed. I was still kind of slothy at this point but somehow always managed to become friends with all the kids who I saw as popular or the cool kids. He'd kinda make me feel important in the hallways asking if im coming out to party with em this weekend and shit like that and I was always kinda hesitant just because it always felt so superficial but eventually I let my guard down and I was like HELL YEAH MAN, ILL BE THERE. And thats kinda how it is in Minnesota, bro kinda looks at ya funny, ya make him feel important, and he kinda just responds back to you the same exact way he talked to you, and the story goes on from there. I'm sitting in his basement and we're watching "How it's Made" ya know that show with Mike Rowe and my buddy was just sitting there like extremely quiet just watching the tv. I noticed this as strange because he's usually the LOUDEST kid on the planet but for this tv sesh he was literally just silent as a mouse. I ended up being the loud one commenting on EVERY SINGLE DUDES ARMS any guy that was kinda muscular like literally naturally i'd be like "WOAHHO LOOK AT THAT DUDES ARMS" SHIT LIKE THAT. So looking back from what I know now it almost feels as if he was sort of psychoanalyzing me to see if I watched television like a gay person would. Maybe so, maybe not. After awhile he was like "you comment on a lot of guys arms" and being completely oblivious to the whole gay thing at the time I was just kinda like uhhhh yea, idk lol just some straight awkward shit. I ended up becoming absolute best friends with the kid and his posse right. Smoking blunts everyday after school, getting completely annihilated on the weekends, trying to flirt with as many girls as we could, and let me tell ya, the kids got it when it comes to talking to women. End of junior year of high school approaches and my dad gets us evicted, I end up moving in with the kid and that summer after getting pulled over and not even getting in trouble on our way to go pick up a bag, I wake up the next day, on June 26, 2011 in the midst of an absolutely irate acute manic episode. Like i'm talking full blown mania, didnt sleep for days at a time, couldn't even stomach a hot dog, thought the whole world was trying to fucking kill me like some really psychotic shit. I end up going to the hospital for 12 days on the highest dose of seroquel they are allowed to recommend. The symptoms continued the entire time I was there and I was suicidal as fuck, absolute lunatic for the time I was there. When we're playing cards one day at a table during one of our meetings it was like one of the workers asked one of the girls what was wrong with me and I had no idea what was happening at the time but basically she splurted out "OH, HE'S GAY" and for a split second I literally thought my fucking head was gonna explode and to this day looking back I honestly just kinda fucking ignored it. It's like I knew I wasn't gay but somehow at that moment like that's how it was. So on, I get out of the hospital literally EXACTLY the same as I was prior the psychotic break and went back to smoking blunts with my friends, disc golfing after school, everything with my girlfriend was pretty much the same despite her horrible mood swings from birth control. I got out of the hospital and ask my friend if he noticed anything different about me regarding the mania as if he thought i seemed any different when I was manic, and before the episode happened (Not even referring to if I was gay or not, remember I still don't know how the world works yet even still at this point) and all he said was. "No besides the fact that it makes you gay?" If you are curious about mania there are a lot of reports of men having homosexual tendencies when they are manic, I see myself as way more attractive, important, grandiose when I am manic, it is a very fascinating and debilitating illness to deal with. SO ON. I was on heavy doses of the medicine to dissipate and throw all my symptoms into remission. First half of senior year i was a drugged out medicated zombie that couldn't even get out of bed, everything was extremely dry, plain, and boring for those first like six months and I honestly did not feel awake until the end of the school day. Last half of high school rolls around and i'm becoming a lot more tolerant of the medicines I was on, getting a lot of my energy back, and I felt like really fucking normal for that time. A few hypomanic episodes here and there, loving them all because girls become absolutely infatuated with you when you are hypomanic, you see yourself as sort of the alpha male and it's just fucking badass, I had all these girls egging me on to cheat on my girlfriend (which never happened before) and just a lot of shit like that, compliments from girls I wouldn't normally get just like a lot of shit that I really saw as positive started happening to me once I was hypomanic or tolerant of my medicines. Life was really good, I was extremely arrogant, and I was enjoying every second of it. The hypomania dies down, I start becoming extremely annoying towards the kid I was living with and he starts growing VERY sick and tired of me. It was like I became sticky and dumb. I'd follow the dude around everywhere, always tried doing what he was doing, no matter what it was like I was following the kid around everywhere and I still feel guilty to this day. High school ends and I start college immediately. I'm still on the medicine and it was really turning me into the fat lard, sloth that I was in elementary school yet again, I felt like the only way I was going to make friends was if i tried upping my charisma and self worth. Bunch of the girls that would always flirt with me in high school got ahold of me when I went to college early and spent a weekend in my bed, hooked up with some girls before the summer ended in the dorms and already befriended thee entire grade above me so I had all the ins to every major party, I could get alcohol whenever I wanted, and weed wasn't even an object. Freshman year starts, i start selling weed in the dorms right away, picking up booze for kids that needed it. I had a ton of financial aid money from my grants, and on top of that I sold weed so I was literally like one of the richest kids in the dorms at the time so it's safe to say I knew some people and had some connections.

  • Minnie Corkery Reply

    >You're putting feels before reals like a liberal. We've got some maroons on this sub but you're definitely towards the bottom, spud. example: you're being unnecessarily pedantic and intentionally obtuse to deflect criticism all while thinking you're the smartest kid in the room for being so damned clever. That's an incredibly nice way of saying "You're a pseudo intellectual tard". You missed it because you were too busy looking down on everyone for being so stupid. Its easy to feel that that way when that is the only argument provided. Unlike them, you provide an argument, you remain civil, you are one of the few people I veiw qualified to debate with, because you don't say "your 14 and an idiot, and your grammar sucks". You are actually trying to Change my opinion. >If an immigrant on a work visa "fixes the problem before it becomes one" then they wouldn't have "overstayed their welcome". Just like those other illegals you hate so much, "they know that they [overstayed their visa], and they have no right to be here in the first place." "they know that they [overstayed their visa], and they had a reason to be here in the first place, but they also had a chance to "fix the problem before it starts" FTFY Thanks for the correction on the issue, because unlike a lot of people on the sub, you gave me percisely what I needed, thank you. >They already pay taxes. They pay property tax (it's amortized into rents), sales tax on goods, and a mind blowing number already pay taxes through payroll deductions, just like that dreamboat Mike Rowe. Sure, a bunch get paid cash under the table but plenty of Americans are paid that way, too. Should those Americans pay back taxes on the payroll taxes they skirted? Or is that kinda tax avoidance part of the American Dream? Your beef isn't actually with the illegal immigrants, ya know. You should be even more angry at the American employers that illegally give them jobs, the CoC that lobbies against stricter control, pro business Republicans who blow hot smoke during election season then do nothing afterwards, and the 'Rats, who's base also supports immigration control, but are standing by doing nothing other than watching angry "conservatives" misdirect their frustrations and push minorities further away. Sure, that funds the city and the state, but not the country. I hate those guys to, thats part of the beef I have with Trump. For the moment though all we can solidly do is put up a wall, then decide what to do with the people already here.Sure the wall will in no way solve the problem, but it is a step in the right direction. Republicans take out there anger on Illegal immigranst because they are not necesarilly in the right either. Meanwhile, on minorities, the Democrats are not in the right either, they claim to support minorities, then, as seen in Detoroit, nothing happens.

  • Rosemary Marquardt Reply

    > On this sub, its very easy for me to feel above everyone else You're putting feels before reals like a liberal. We've got some maroons on this sub but you're definitely towards the bottom, spud. example: > you're being unnecessarily pedantic and intentionally obtuse to deflect criticism all while thinking you're the smartest kid in the room for being so damned clever. That's an incredibly nice way of saying "You're a pseudo intellectual tard". You missed it because you were too busy looking down on everyone for being so stupid. > I am more sympathetic to people who have "overstayed their welcome" but they shpuld at leats try to fix the problem before it becomes one. If an immigrant on a work visa "fixes the problem before it becomes one" then they wouldn't have "overstayed their welcome". Just like those other illegals you hate so much, "they know that they [overstayed their visa], and they have no right to be here in the first place." > I think that at the very least, they (Illegal Immigrants who came here Illegally) should pay back taxes. They already pay taxes. They pay property tax (it's amortized into rents), sales tax on goods, and a mind blowing number already pay taxes through payroll deductions, just like that dreamboat Mike Rowe. Sure, a bunch get paid cash under the table but plenty of Americans are paid that way, too. Should those Americans pay back taxes on the payroll taxes they skirted? Or is that kinda tax avoidance part of the American Dream? Your beef isn't actually with the illegal immigrants, ya know. You should be even more angry at the American employers that illegally give them jobs, the CoC that lobbies against stricter control, pro business Republicans who blow hot smoke during election season then do nothing afterwards, and the 'Rats, who's base also supports immigration control, but are standing by doing nothing other than watching angry "conservatives" misdirect their frustrations and push minorities further away.

  • Heidi Howe Reply

    Mechanical engineer here with a career of over 20 years as a network engineer and I was previously employed as a process improvement engineer.. My wife has a degree in electrical engineering and has a career of more than 10 years as a process inprovement engineer and another 10 as an environmental engineer. In my opinion being a degreed engineer is awesome because if you can learn one engineering discipline you're capable of learning most anything and employers know that. That's how my wife and I were able to switch disciplines mid-career. For the record the first couple of years in engineering sucks. It doesn't get fun at all until senior year when you put the stuff to use. What you might be experiencing is the suck or you might have simply picked the wrong discipline for your interests. I originally started school for aerospace engineering, transferred to mechanical, and then got so far along that path when I realized I much preferred my electrical engineering courses. But I had already lost one years worth of credit to make the first transition and I couldn't rationalize adding another year to make another transition. In retrospect I should have added that one year. [Anyhow, please watch this video from Mike Rowe. He knows a thing or two about jobs sucking](

  • Malika Fay Reply

    Mike Rowe is HOT! It's the height of snobbery to say someone, "only has a high school education." So what? Most small business owners I have working on my fixer upper don't have college degrees. Big deal. They are trained and licensed contractors. I don't shove my degrees in their face. "Look at me, wow! I have college degrees." Nobody gives a shit. It's about being successful. Pile up all the degrees you want, it doesn't guarantee success.

  • Nicholaus Wisozk Reply

    Don't get your show cancelled, Hot Mike Rowe!

  • Adam Wintheiser Reply

    I worked in a sales department once where a guy we knew went through a really rough divorce - his wife took the house, kids, car, everything. By this time we'd known him for over two years and it was a shock. For about a month and a half he'd come to work and half-ass his job, not bothering to make sales or do much of anything. Several times I caught him in the back room crying or showing up to work with whiskey breath. We never talked about it, but we'd write him onto our tickets for split commissions and the manager even turned a blind eye to the alcohol. After a few weeks of this, he got himself back together and returned to the same old guy we'd always known. We never put an arm around his shoulder and said "hey buddy we're here for you," and we never EVER mentioned the divorce, but we were supporting him nonetheless. A lot of the support in guy relationships is unspoken like that. Regarding work lunches: I work in a field that's ~95% male, I didn't mean to exclude women from that category. Networking is absolutely critical and although I don't know any guys who would overtly keep women out, there's definitely an attitude that women are "an HR complaint waiting to happen" when you want to speak coarsely. I don't know a good way to fix that kind of culture, but the few women who work in my field are *fierce* as hell and do a good job of representing their gender. My issue isn't really with women in any particular workforce, it's with the constant beauty/fashion culture that demands a woman still have a manicure and heels even if she's hitching up a trailer or pouring a crucible. Once it becomes socially OK for women to do the Mike Rowe jobs we'll see a lot of industries bringing on more women. Until then, nobody's going to hire someone who's going to cringe and mince through their work.

  • Mathilde Wintheiser Reply

    > it really isn't a decision were capable of forcing onto them or her. That's a nice way of saying "we don't want to start drama" but really - it needs to be done. Someone's gotta go in and clean out septic tanks. It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it. So you and your wife need to buck up and put your foot down, or hire Mike Rowe (spelling?) to come in and clean your shit up.

  • Lawrence Gulgowski Reply

    I looked at that comic a little when I was in college. Yes, the divide between Asian-Americans and immigrants is real. I am usually very good at telling just from appearance who was born and raised in America and who isn't. I don't really identify with my Chinese side -- I'm ethnically Chinese but culturally American. I struggle with the language. And I don't take pride in my heritage. If you're an ABC (American-born Chinese), you don't really have a heritage. That's why I get mildly annoyed whenever someone asks me where I'm from. No, where I'm *really* from. Because to say that I'm from Hong Kong is just completely wrong. But most people ask it out of genuine curiosity, so I just say Hong Kong and keep my feelings about that to myself. Or just when people make any big deal out of my ethnicity or make me feel different because of it. Yeah at some point I mixed up race with wealth and status in general. This has to do with the general attitude some people have that white people are on top and what they do is normal, whereas Asians are just sort of embarrassing. Some of this stems from genuine lack of education: a lot of immigrant parents are at least a little bit superstitious. I see old Asian people walking around swinging their arms in the most peculiar fashion because they believe it's good for them. I would even avoid some good ideas that some east Asians do -- for example, using am umbrella to shield the sun when it's hot is actually a pretty smart idea, but white people don't do it, so I don't do it either. I associated body hair with masculinity and lack of body hair with being less masculine. So I still find hairy forearms, scruff, and chiseled features [like this]( and [this]( very masculine and sexy and it's what I'm attracted to. Anyway after a while I stopped thinking about it so much because it's so mentally draining. After a while I found it just not that interesting to think about. I still find rugged looks sexy (Mike Rowe, that face and voice), and prefer scruffy guys, and I don't care about it. Is it a manifestation of self-hatred? I don't know. I find a lot of scruffy chiseled Asian guys sexy. It also helped to realize that not everyone finds my type sexy, and some guys' types are not mine at all. And it helped to force myself to find pics of Asian guys that I found sexy. Kind of a weird form of self-therapy but whatever works. edit: nice chatting with you too.

  • Lexie Russel Reply

    I'll start with admitting I am bias on this subject as I am career air force, I do love and believe in what I do, and this is my personal opinion and am not a recruiter. Most teenagers who graduate high school should not go to higher education immediately and for some, ever. It places too great of an economic burden on many people who aren't ready yet. They either aren't mature enough to commit to it, don't have their own capital to afford it, or will not be honest with their future and what is within their capabilities. It's a harsh statement to make and I am not insulting any generation over another but I personally feel like we've all been fed a lie about college. Yes, the earning potential is significantly better for a college grad, yes the standard of living is better, the life expectancy, in every facet completing a degree gives you a significant advantage. But you have to complete one and use it. So what about everyone that should not go to college after high school? The trades are high paying, high demand careers that need younger workers desperately because the average ages are getting up there in the US for plumbers and electricians. Please look up mike rowe and the work that he is doing to support this. So where does the military come in to all of this? Yes, the military enacts our nation's political will across the world, and that is a separate subject entirely. But take a minute and look around at all of the people you know, not all of them will succeed in college. Not all of them have the money, drive, or resources to go down that path. I did not have the drive or money, so I enlisted. I grew up a little since I've been in, i've made great money, and now I'm at a place to complete that degree without the worry of failure because I know I am ready. I didn't join for school, i joined because it's a family tradition that I believed in. I think the recruitment program is a bit gimmicky but it's advertising. You don't get a smoking hot girl and a beach view from the commercial when you buy a sports car. And part of joining the military is understanding every job in it, from a cook to a cop, is one link in a long kill chain. If that thought makes you feel uncomfortable sleep well knowing that it is an all volunteer force in the US and we all know what we got into. TL/DR please consider the military or the trades, college is not for everbody and it's pushed on people who aren't ready.

  • Sid Mayer Reply

    Mike Rowe did a special on this with Dirty Jobs. Most Colleges prepare people for the "American Idol" jobs. Where lines and lines of people try to get a specific job based on what they are told are high-paying jobs. Everybody is lined up for that job hoping that they are a little bit better than the next person. In the meantime, employers are trying to fill other positions that nobody else even thinks about. They are the blue-collar worker jobs. Because an employer isn't able to find somebody to do this job (Welder, for example), they end up wanting to pay somebody $130k a year. ...But nobody wants a welding job...they are trying to get the software developer position that pays half as much. He did an interview with a Septic tank repair-man. The guy is a millionaire. During the day, he is in dirty overalls and drives a septic tank trunk and people think "ewww". And then he goes home, takes a shower, and floats around in his pool with his trophy wife. The Key is to FIND THE NEED and BE WILLING TO SACRIFICE to fill that need. Don't follow your passion, but take your passion with you. whatever you are doing, Do it like it is the best thing in the world. The money will come to you, and you won't even think about it because you love what you do so much. I am currently in Wastewater recycling. There are always jobs in wastewater...and you know what? I sit behind a desk at a computer just like any tech job.

  • Abbie Herman Reply

    Mike Rowe? No wife, on and off girlfriends, and that post no r/NoKids?

  • Baby Marquardt Reply

    **DRATINI SPAWN:** I don't know if I'd use the term "nest", since you're really getting one every 20 minutes or so (depending on RNG). But it's just south of Milford Wampol Park, right outside the gates of LSU. Here's a map:,-91.1626224,17.5z Park at Wampol Park (there's a Pokestop in the parking lot, too), and then walk just south over the little foot bridge. There's another Pokestop at the corner, and then the path leads around the lake to the west. THAT's where the Dratini are. If you're looking at the map, just follow that little walking trail between the lake and the canal, all the way to Sorority Row. There will be Dratini spawns along that path (and tons of Magikarp, Psyduck, and Slowpoke). -------------------------------- **KOFFING SPAWN:** If you go all the way onto campus, you can find a consistent Koffing spawn. About once every 30 minutes, I'd guess. Map:,-91.1830014,18.75z It'll be somewhere along N Stadium Rd, between Mike the Tiger's habitat and Field House Dr. **HIGH POP AREA:** In general, the LSU Quad area has lots of Pokestops, Pokemon spawns, and people. Map:,-91.1780588,18z I'm not familiar with any *specific* rare spawns there, but there's so many people and spawns that you will inevitably encounter something interesting if you walk around enough. -------------------------------- **OTHER HOT SPOTS:** **Perkins Rowe** (map:,-91.0937182,17.5z) has a lot of good walking areas, parking, multiple pokestops, and two gyms that are constantly in flux. Tons of people mean the stops are almost always lured. **The Mall of Louisiana** (map:,-91.0854321,17z) has an almost identical situation, with the added bonus of being mostly indoors (essential in this heat). Also, just northwest of the food court (right in the middle of the mall), there's another semi-consistent Koffing spawn (I'd guess once per hour). Heading downtown, **3rd Street and the State Capital** area (map:,-91.1821863,16.75z) has lots of spawns, people, and stops. I don't recommend it, though. No free parking, crowded, and kinda dirty. Great, though, if there happens to be an event going on. -------------------------------- Those are all my favorite spots!

  • Katarina Kshlerin Reply

    **DRATINI SPAWN:** I don't know if I'd use the term "nest", since you're really getting one every 20 minutes or so (depending on RNG). But it's just south of Milford Wampol Park, right outside the gates of LSU. Here's a map:,-91.1626224,17.5z Park at Wampol Park (there's a Pokestop in the parking lot, too), and then walk just south over the little foot bridge. There's another Pokestop at the corner (of Stanford and Lakeshore), and then the path leads around the lake to the west. THAT's where the Dratini are. If you're looking at the map, just follow that little walking trail between the lake and the canal, all the way to Sorority Row. There will be Dratini spawns along that path (and tons of Magikarp, Psyduck, and Slowpoke). -------------------------------- **KOFFING SPAWN:** If you go all the way onto campus, you can find a consistent Koffing spawn. About once every 30 minutes, I'd guess. Map:,-91.1830014,18.75z It'll be somewhere along N Stadium Rd, between Mike the Tiger's habitat and Field House Dr. -------------------------------- **HIGH POP AREA:** In general, the LSU Quad area has lots of Pokestops, Pokemon spawns, and people. Map:,-91.1780588,18z I'm not familiar with any *specific* rare spawns there, but there's so many people and spawns that you will inevitably encounter something interesting if you walk around enough. -------------------------------- **OTHER HOT SPOTS:** **Perkins Rowe** (map:,-91.0937182,17.5z) has a lot of good walking areas, parking, multiple pokestops, and two gyms that are constantly in flux. Tons of people mean the stops are almost always lured. **The Mall of Louisiana** (map:,-91.0854321,17z) has an almost identical situation, with the added bonus of being mostly indoors (essential in this heat). Also, just northwest of the food court (right in the middle of the mall), there's another semi-consistent Koffing spawn (I'd guess once per hour). -------------------------------- Those are all my favorite spots! What are yours?

  • Marjolaine Ward Reply

    Im very sorry for your loss, my friend. Ive worked at GC before and i know what you mean about its plain old nice to always be surrounded by music, gear, and "musicians". I agree. On the side of chasing your dreams, i always refer people to read a few of Mike Rowe's (the dirty jobs guy) speeches on following your dreams. Look a few of em up for yourself and read them, please. A simple summary is " Do what your actually good at and will make you successful/money. Not just follow your dreams and potentially stay down in more ways than one. People easily ruin/waste their lives chading dreams. Success (everyone gauges what success means to them, but being great at something is succesful and it feels good when your great at something) and money tend to make you a bit happier than the opposite, and you can usually afford to do what you love and live the lifestyle you want when your successful and can make money at a normal job or even a wildly successful business owner!" This is exactly what im doing. I could never land a gig at a studio, especially cuz i live in Virginia and they are non existant, basicly. I make about 45k a year and i cannot afford to make less just to do what i dream for a living. I like my job just fine and im good at it, and theres a huge chance ill get promoted to corporate HQ and make even more at some point. So you know what, im following Mikes advice and beating the system. Next year my wife and I are moving to Austin TX, were gonna buy a big house with land that in northern VA we could never afford (housing prices are double to triple the rest of the country in NOVA) and im gonna build MY OWN fucking studio to record great local artists. THAT is going to make me WAY happier than working at anothers studio. I'll find a new band to join (hardcore/metal), ill have a fine job making fair money doing something i can do well and has plenty of growth, i can be a good husband and future father (one day), AND a studio owner. Even if i never record anyone but myself and make triphop beats all day, ill still feel like a fancy pants! This plan is not far fetched AT ALL. Theres nothing stopping you, or me. Lets fucking do it!

  • Jerrod Marquardt Reply

    Your wife has got to be the only woman on the planet who didn't want to bang Mike Rowe on first sight.

  • Jedidiah Gutkowski Reply

    My wife couldn't stand Mike Rowe, but I wouldn't let that stop me from turning on Dirty Jobs or anything else he was involved in. Now she really likes him, because he's a genuine, clever, and learned guy.

  • Deanna Stark Reply

    It is a lot of hand-eye coordination. On-site welding can require a lot of travel, and working in harsh conditions. (Extreme cold in the northern oilfields, etc.) There are other physical challenges, lifting parts, fixtures, moving equipment like gas tanks around. But it's not particularly hard for the most part. You are dealing with very bright light from the arc, you gotta wear safety gear that some people might not find comfortable, and hot metal that can burn. On the whole, I'd say that it's one of those things that looks more unpleasant and difficult than it actually is. That, combined with the way blue-collar jobs have been run down over the last three decades, means that the only people who get into it are those who were exposed to it as kids, had dads who were welders. I'm hoping YouTube (the dad you never had, will show you all kinds of things your dad didn't know to show you) and Mike Rowe's efforts will start to change some of that. I'm an inspector in an aerospace shop, and love our welders. They're the best. True artists. The best people. You find 20-something kids doing welding in this day and age, and you know that they're independent thinkers who have true excitement for their craft. Anyone who isn't and doesn't... isn't doing that job.

  • Frederik Sanford Reply

    I'd start with the Fast-5. McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, Taco-Bell, Arby's. If that's not your speed, HomeDepot, Lowes and so forth have great employment opportunity with benefits, 401k etc. Find something that makes money, pay your bills, use whats left over to buy bitcoin for your hentai or whatever the fuck you have to hide from your mom. Then save up and go to trade school, become an electrician so you don't deal with human dookie, apprentice, start your own company, hire more electricians to do the work while you drive around in your own company branded pick up truck making the occasional sales call. Hire a hot blonde to answer the phone so when you do go into the office you can enjoy the scenery. Mike Rowe would be proud. Take a vacation, by this point you've earned it. Don't go deep sea fishing, cause you could fall off the boat and drown and ruin all this cool shit you've done with your life. Take a back seat at the company, and semi-retire using all the money you've saved up for retirement. When people start a post with broke, unemployed, in debt and can't do anything and all my stuff is shit, I feel like what you're asking for is a kick in the ass. This one's free. Don't ask for another. Come back in ten years and tell me how you did.

  • Marcellus Johnson Reply

    Just finished watching Lestrade’s ‘Staircase’ and ‘Staircase II’. There were a few things that struck me as fishy as I watched Staircase: - A somewhat intangible sensation that Michael Peterson just had a little bit too much ‘swagger’ for a guy whose wife had just died - Chapter 1, 10:47 where Michael Peterson says to cameras ‘Kathleen was my life, I whispered her name in my heart thousand times’ – felt too rehearsed - Chapter 2, 8:11 where Ron Guerette talks about the Dennis Rowe gay hook-up (4 or 5 times) to Michael Peterson, MP’s reaction is bizarre, seemingly over-playing his reaction and asking too many questions - Very little air time on Kathleen herself which was odd - The scenes with Brad (Chapter 6, 12:20) – felt like Brad had been coached by the defendant’s legal team Viewing all the evidence in totality (the Staircase documentary certainly does NOT provide a full picture) – it seems clear that Michael Peterson murdered Kathleen. Contributing factors: - Too clever by half Michael Peterson rang 911 twice – once at 2:40am (claiming Kathleen was still breathing) and again at 2:46am (claiming Kathleen was now no longer breathing) – i.e. trying to position she had died between 2:40am – 2:46am on Dec 9, 2001. Presumably to cover-up that she had been dead for some time – the time Mike Peterson needed to get rid of evidence and stage the scene - Problem is the red neurons found in her brain – Kathleen was already dead when MP rang 911 – For at least 2 hours per prosecution Neuropathologist Dr. Thomas Bouldin and at least 30 minutes per Defence expert witness Dr. Jan Leestma, former Chief of Neurology at the medical center at Northwestern University in Chicago - When paramedics and fire crew arrived on the scene at 2:48am they later testified the blood was already dry, and that pooled blood had begun to congeal - Caught by the science that Kathleen was already dead, Mike Peterson amazingly changed his story from a quick return trip back to the house to turn off the “pool lights” to lounging by the pool smoking a cigar for 45 minutes – it is impossible to understate the significance of this change in story The financial situation: - This is huge. Kathleen was the breadwinner – Michael stood to gain $1.5M in payout from Kathleen’s life insurance policy. - Michael himself was not earning any money and sponging off this wife, and hadn’t earned any money for 3 years - The Petersons had $143K of credit card debt – this is a huge amount of credit card debt The loving couple / “soulmates” veneer - Kathleen had divorced her previous husband due to infidelity with other women (per Caitlin Atwater), so why would she be OK with Michael Peterson cheating on her with other men? - Kathleen had a 10am conference call on the Sunday (Dec 9 2001) – and her colleague Helen Prislinger had sent her an email with the presentation to support the conference call at 11:53pm on Dec 9 - Due to the conference call being in the weekend and Kathleen having left her work laptop at work, the presentation was sent to the Peterson’s home email address so that Kathleen could pick up the presentation on the home PC – Kathleen rarely used the home PC and had to ask her husband what their home email address was – this is significant - It is entirely plausible that Kathleen went to check the home PC for the email and found the emails that Michael Peterson had been exchanging with gay escorts as well as the gay pornography on the PC. - She may then have confronted him about this and raised the possibility of divorce. Already under financial duress and with his source of financial support threatening divorce, Michael Peterson then saw his lifestyle as he knew it flashing in front of his eyes and took matters into his own hands. - Based on an email that Michael Peterson sent his ex-wife Patricia sent Nov 29, 2001, Michael lamented their boys’ (Todd and Clayton) financial situation and coming to arrangement to help them out noting "It is simply not possible for me to discuss this with Kathleen" – if he can’t discuss finances with Kathleen, is it beyond the realms of possibility that he also wouldn’t reveal his bi-sexuality to Kathleen? (Michael also kept his bisexuality hidden from his legal team until deeper into the case) - The covert emails with a gay male escort goes against the grain of a loving ‘soulmate’ relationship – and goes to character re: deception and double lives (per lying re: purple hearts) and goes to motive re: grounds for Kathleen divorcing Michael Peterson. Liz Ratliff similarities - neuropathologist Dr. Aaron Gleckman, said in his opinion, Ratliff died from blunt-force trauma to the head - As with Kathleen, Michael personally profited from Liz’s death (receiving money and goods), and was in charge of Liz’s estate - As with Kathleen, was the last person to see Liz alive - Both died same way, and with lots of blood (three eye-witnesses, Barbara Malagnino, Amybeth Berne and Cheryl Appel-Schumacher testified to there being lots of blood at the scene of Liz’s death) - Eerily, both Liz and Kathleen were found dead at the foot of a staircase, with a poster of the ‘Chat Noir’ hanging above the victim at the foot of the staircase in both situations. Both relatives of Liz and Kathleen had to wipe blood off the Chat Noir poster in both situations. - Remembering Barbara Stager, killed her second husband by shooting him in the head in 1988, claimed it was an accident and was set to collect $1M in life insurance payout – until it came to light her previous husband had also died by gunshot to the head 11 years prior. Barbara’s children still maintain their mother is innocent of both murders. The previous suspicious death of her husband pointed to a pattern and cast doubt on the accidental nature of the second murder. Additionally: - Blood spatter pattern found inside Michael Peterson’s shorts – how do get blood spatter inside your shorts in that pattern if you weren’t standing over Kathleen bludgeoning away at her? - A shoeprint matching Michael Peterson’s shoe was found on the *back* of Kathleen’s leg but yet she was found slumped in a sitting position - Kathleen found with *cut* hairs in her hand – how you cut hairs on wooden steps or a door moulding? - Blood spatter found up to 70” high – how does blood get that high from just an accidental fall? - Beyond the head injuries, Kathleen had defensive type wounds on face, hands and forearms – but no other injuries or bruising on the rest of her body. How do you fall down a bunch of stairs and not sustain some injuries to the rest of your body? Random stuff - He lied about having received two purple hearts in the Vietnam war – this goes to character and given the stolen valour aspect is a significant lie - Dr. Lee hypothesised that Kathleen coughed blood up the wall – but hadn’t tested the blood to see if it contained saliva - Michael Peterson took his shoes and socks off – strange behaviour - A roll of paper towels is clearly visible near Kathleen’s body – why is it there? Straight up odd. - Evidence some of the crime scene had been cleaned prior to EMT and police arriving - Luminol showed footprints going to / from the laundry - Windex bottle was found in an odd location – not where it was usually stored - The wine glasses – only Michael Peterson’s fingerprints were found; additionally the empty wine bottle matching the residue of the wine in these glasses was never found - Michael Peterson refused to cooperate with police the night of the murder - Michael Peterson was checking his emails / on his PC while the EMTs and police were on the scene – who sits on their PC when their wife has just died? - Michael Peterson did not in any way cooperate with the police - Michael Peterson left Kathleen’s funeral arrangements to her sister Candace Zamperini, and bickered with Candace over petty sums of money and details associated with the funeral - Michael Peterson left his deceased wife’s blood on the stairwell for 18 months… possibly to assist his expert witnesses but damned odd nonetheless - Kathleen’s blood alcohol limit was under the legal limit to drive in NC - Hundreds of photos had been deleted from the family PC the day before Kathleen died, and two dies afterwards - Prosecution expert witness Dr. McElhaney testified that Kathleen’s head could not bounce on the steps with enough velocity to cause the lacerations incurred - Michael Peterson’s own sister, Ann Christensen believes her brother is guilty - Visual similarity of Kathleen, Liz and Patty is striking - Many serial killers report that the impulse to kill is irresistible. They say it's a like a hunger that appears every so often -- a horrible craving that cannot be ignored - The owl theory – the whole theory is ridiculous and defies common sense - Duane Deaver unconscionable falsifying of his experience was really disappointing. He did not need to do this and this allowed Michael Peterson to be released – I haven’t dived deep on exactly what Duane Deaver lied about, but the totality of the evidence is still overwhelming nonetheless Conclusion - Let’s not forget plain common sense. How do you get those type of head wounds and that amount of blood from falling down the stairs (and only injuries were to head, neck, hands, forearms – no injuries or bruising to rest of body?). - Watching Staircase from the perspective of Michael Peterson being guilty, you see a chilling sociopath. Also, apart from being bias towards Michael Peterson and leaving out lots of critical evidence and data points, the Staircase ‘documentary’ pushed this homophobic / narrow-minded-Durham-residents-can’t-accept-that-Mike-and-Kathleen-had-an-open-marriage-and-that-Mike-is-bisexual narrative (as the reason Michael Peterson got convicted), which is completely outrageous. - How many people do you know are connected with only one suspicious death, let alone 2 (or possibly 3 if you include George Ratliff)?

  • Antonette Ankunding Reply

    A lot of people think just putting three popular car enthusiast TV personalities together will make for a really good show, but it doesn't work that way. Just because they're popular doesn't mean they'll work well together -- we're seeing that right now with Top Gear UK, where there's a clash between Matt Leblanc and Chris Evans. The reason Clarkson/Hammond/May Top Gear was so good is that they had chemistry, and that's way more important than just throwing three people we like on camera together. Yes, we all like Mike Rowe, and we all like Jay Leno, and we all like Tim Allen, but the question is, how will they interact when combined? It's like a sandwich. You like peanut butter. You like Snickers bars. You like hot sauce. You wouldn't necessarily put them together.

  • Faustino Walsh Reply

    I'd say skilled tradesman: plumbing, electrical, HVAC and so forth. Sure those jobs can be hot, dirty and tiring but there is always demand and the pay is good with a modicum of experience. My neighborhood is full of "blue collar" folk who own everything free & clear and have savings. Mike Rowe knows what he's talking about.

  • Gilberto Kihn Reply

    Okay, wow, you've got a lot on your plate here. I think the first step is to acknowledge that. You are legitimately in a tough spot. (Done, first step accomplished!) The second step is to recognize that no matter how alone you feel, you are not alone. Hi, my name's Tim, I'm a 36 year old self-taught software developer, I've never had a head injury, and my parents are decent folks, but I've pulled through two bouts of severe depression, during the first of which I resorted to self-harm and was uninsured, and I still have to cope with anxiety on a daily basis. Oh, and I've got Bachelor's degree in Anthropology. So, while we may not be exactly alike, I hope you can see that we've at least got *some* common ground to start from here. So first, I applaud your career interest. ;-) Any kind of software development can be a very satisfying career (just like any career, it too has its cons). Web development is definitely in demand, and you *can* go the self-taught option, but if you have the opportunity to get a degree in Computer Science, I would *highly* recommend it. If you go self-taught, you need a lot of experience to make up for the lack of a degree in the subject matter, which can be a bit of a catch-22 to acquire. I was extremely lucky, I was working in another position at my current place of employment when I expressed interest to my boss in learning to be a developer. He recommended some languages to start off with (HTML, CSS, Javascript, and then moving to MVC), and when I'd gone through that, I picked up a beginner book on Asp.NET 4.5. He saw that on my desk one day, and offered me the position. That was almost 2 years ago. But as lucky as I was, I'm also extremely underpaid, even for an entry level position. My position should start at $56k - $65k / yr, entry level. I still make $40k. Meanwhile I'm still self-teaching so I can complete my skill-set, take my experience, and get a better paying position. If I could make one change, well, it's hard to say I would, because who knows how differently my life would be, would I have the friends I have now? Would I have met my wife? Who knows, but I digress. If I could make one change, it would be to have obtained a CS degree. The hardest part about self-teaching is figuring out what I don't know and where to learn it. A degree has that all planned out for you, and with the most current technologies to boot. I've already got one degree, and half a Math Education master's degree (I went through a phase), so my student debt is such that going back for more school is out of the question for me. I see you've got just an Associate's Degree. Which means you probably don't have a lot of student debt, and your options for loans and such are still open to you for pursuing a full Bachelor's degree. If you're concerned with going to classes, find a university that offers some computer correspondence courses in your subject area. That'll let you learn from the comfort of your own home. You've got an associates degree, that'll help you get into universities as they see that you *do* have what it takes to finish a degree. It sounds like you don't have any personal attachments where you are, so consider expanding your university options to more than just your local community college (but also consider your local community college if they offer a bachelor's degree in C.S.). But do consider "brick & mortar" college, as opposed to one of those on-line universities for a very big reason - therapy. This is how I got through my two bouts of depression while uninsured. As a full-time student of a university, I had **free** access to a psychiatrist through the university health services. I also had access to discounted prescriptions. (Technically, I had insurance through the second bout, but it was cheaper/free to go through the university, so I went that option). Further more, if you're finding that your depression and anxiety are affecting your school work, you can bring this up to the psychiatrist, and tell your professors, and they'll usually work with you. During my first bout with depression, I ended up failing to complete a couple classes. When I explained the situation to those professors, they allowed me to take an "Incomplete," and finish the course-work when I was better. So, in summary - a C.S. degree is not strictly necessary, you can go the self-taught route, but if you have the opportunity to get that degree, I cannot recommend this highly enough. Second, going to university full-time will get you access to health services that include psychiatric services. Now, there are two other things I want to talk about. First: > I've been on this never-ending search through multiple job industries to find anything that sparks a passion. Looking back, working with computers (I.T.) was the least painful. This is something that really resonated with me. It took me a long time to settle in on a career decision. I've bounced around from considering joining the Navy to Music Education, to Music Performance, to C.S. (oh so briefly), to Egyptology, to considering the Army, to History Education, to Math Education, to Technical Writing, and finally to Software Development. Consider your outlook on work. I know a lot of people like to go on about "find a job you love, and you'll never work a day in your life." Personally, I came to the realization that this is hog-wash. I thoroughly enjoy working in code, and I find it extremely satisfying to put together a solid bit of code. But I work every single day. I don't care what your passion is, if you try to do that for a living, it will be work. Plain and simple. My wife has a master's degree in music performance (voice). She teaches private voice lessons, and let me tell you, she works every. single. day. I wasted way too much time trying to find that "perfect" career path for me. I think there are two main paradigms of thought when it comes to work: you can either live to work, or work to live. I've chosen the latter. I also think we, as a society, do ourselves a disservice when we encourage our children to think of work as this glorious means of definition and self-worth. My kindergarten class was full of astronauts, baseball players, and future presidents of the United States. Work is just that - work. It doesn't have to be glorious, it doesn't have to be glamorous. And most importantly, it is not the one single defining characterization of who you are. Try not to get hung up on finding that perfect job that you're so passionate about that it's not even like working. Acknowledge that work is about subsistence. Yes, it is important to find a job that doesn't drive you bat-shit crazy, but we as a society (and I'm assuming you're in the U.S. since you don't have access to medical services) place such a stigma on some jobs. And I get it. Our grandparents worked in some truly back-breaking conditions just to eke out a living, and they've passed on this notion that blue-collar jobs are bad, and cushy white-collar jobs are good. (If this strikes a chord with you, go look up what Mike Rowe has to say about work.) All I'm trying to say here, is that you shouldn't identify yourself solely by your work. Yes, we all need to work, but focus on finding something that's satisfying. Something that, when you finish, you can say "I did something meaningful to me." Passion fades, meaning endures. I daresay that for a lot of the people who are passionate about their work, I'd be willing to bet they have a deeper meaning that's far more important to them. I get a lot of satisfaction figuring out a tough solution to a pesky little bug in our software. But I don't find a whole lot of meaning in perfecting software that's essentially earning some fat-cat the extra money he needs to buy the fourth kid from his third wife a yacht. I do, however, find meaning in earning the money that puts food on the table. My wife and I can eat healthily, we can watch Netflix, play on-line video games. We can take an occasional small trip, and buy nice Christmas presents for our family. Your job is not your life, don't let it define you. Allow me to re-introduce myself. My name is Tim, and I'm a 36 year old Christian. I play Pathfinder (D&D) and Star Wars: Armada with a few close friends on the weekend. I love the MCU movies, I read a ton of fantasy and sci-fi novels (and a few comics). I'm writing a historical fiction series set in Roman times that I don't expect to ever pay the bills or attain critical acclaim, but is fun to research and write about. I've got plans to assemble a Doctor Strange cosplay; this year (like every year) will be the year my Texas Rangers win the World Series (please don't mention 2011), and tomorrow I'm going to a Sons of Abraham meeting where I'll sit down with Jews, Muslims, and fellow Christians for some brotherly fellowship and compare the similarities of our religions. I've recently discovered that I enjoy playing board games like Ticket to Ride, Settlers of Catan, and Lords of Waterdeep, and I keep meaning to get back to my cello. Oh, and I write code for a living. The second thing I want to talk to you about, and far more important, if you take nothing else away from everything I've written, is this: > I don't have the balls to off myself, but I often wish I did. I am a grown-ass man, and this makes me want to cry from heart-ache. Please, do not hurt yourself. If you feel no one else will on this planet will mourn your passing, know this: **I will.** I am a Christian, and I say that so you know I say this with utmost conviction: *you are my neighbor on this earth, and as such, I love you.* Please, do not hurt yourself. You are at a very low point in your life, but there is *nothing* wrong with that. You *will* survive. You *will* carry on. You *can* get through this. 1 (800) 273-8255 is the number for the [National Suicide Prevention Lifeline]( DO NOT be ashamed to call this number.

  • Rolando Schmeler Reply

    I know Booker T's Reality of Wrestling and Inspire Pro have really solid women's divisions. They are both really well put together shows that deserve a lot of attention. I've seen Teddy Hart advertised for a few shows down here, but was unaware he tried to start a school in Texas. Texas has a few solid promotions but, most of the attention goes to the East, and sometimes the West coast which is understandable, as they are THE hot beds for professional wrestling. Guys Like Ruthless Ryan Davidson, Ray Rowe, Mysterious Q, Keith Lee, Gino, Rex Andrews, Ricky Starks, Andy Dalton, Mike Dell, Moonshine Mantell, Terrale Tempo, and Bryan Keith are all great wrestlers who should be looked at if you have never heard of them before.

  • Jakayla Wintheiser Reply

    Thanks for the reply. Not trying to start a confrontation, but rather I'm trying to gauge what you think about this whole thing in detail (since you and pretty much everyone else in this thread have been short on details). >That's called an internship. Many skilled jobs have them. Yes they do. And most of them are unpaid. I can't afford to work for free, even if it will increase my wages in the long term. In the short term, I will be homeless. >Google, Microsoft, even my company offers paid internships for people interested in the fields that our respective companies need. However, there are stipulations for paid internships. Certain requirements and criteria you must meet. Therefore additional training and education must be attained before hand, no? Without that additional training and education, you don't qualify for these kinds of internships. Can't get that additional training and education without an income, this creating a catch-22 and making you stuck. >There's also grants, loans, and scholarships that cover expenses during college years. You can even get a book that shows you tons of ones that you may not know about. This makes college relatively inexpensive. Of course, if you want to make college even cheaper, go to a community college for 2 years, then transfer to a 4 year to finish out your degree. Ah yeah! My wife is doing this. Here's the problem- those scholarships, grants and loans also have certain requirements. But even if you meet those requirements, you've still gotta pay the rent and bills. Those loans, grants and scholarships, in most cases, will not pay for that. I don't have the priveledge of living with my parents and freeloading. So I would need a full time job, AND go to school full time. While not impossible, it's improbable for most people. The only way my wife can do it is because I work as a truck driver and make decent money, so I can handle all of the basic expenses. Even so, she will still need a fat student loan on top of her grants and scholarships, because I simply don't make enough to pay for an additional 2 years at a university (but I make too much for her to qualify for anything). BTW, my wife did go to a community college for 2 years first. We did this entirely out of pocket. It was killer for my budget, and really made things tight. Yes it's much cheaper than going to a university for 4 years, but it ain't cheap. >Luck had ZERO to do with my success. I've been "stuck" in many jobs before. Jobs that I hated, needed, and couldn't afford to be without. I simply used my time after work to gain better skills through various methods, and applied for other, higher paying jobs. There's nothing preventing people from doing the same. Luck had a lot to do with my success. Even things as simple as being at the right place at the right time or just so happening to have enough money in the bank on a certain date to acquire a liscence of some sort. Hard work plays an important role as well, but that's not the whole picture. People in subsaharan Africa are some of the hardest working people out there, but without any luck, they're still stuck. > The story is about automation replacing minimum wage workers. This is absolutely on point with the discussion. You need to explain how that's a fallacy. It's confirmation bias. Just because everything worked out for you, means that it can work out for everyone. That's basically your entire argument. > Where's my fucking cookie! Haha > If you didn't get the skills you need for joining Job Corps, why didn't you try other places? Why didn't you ask others what they did? You didn't push hard enough forward. Uhhh yeah I did. I gave 2 examples of what I did. My point there was that government "training", in my experience anyway, is bullshit. Job corps wasn't my first state funded training program, but it was my last. I didn't get any real training until I started paying for it out of pocket or through contracts. I probably should've explained that better. >And finally, you throw your hands up in disgust and give up. No I'm still here. I just was waiting for you to reply in detail. >Let me point you to a little video by our good friend Mike Rowe. > > And here's the link he's talking about. > Yeah that's basically what I did. Now I'm doing fine. I make good money as a truck driver. I do want to note a couple of things about that second link- 129 jobs? That's not very many. Also I noticed that many of those jobs don't list a salary range, which concerns me. >So, tell me again how there's only 2 ways out of a blue collar worker job? That's another fallacy. I just described two ways that I personally did it. It's pretty obvious there are more ways. >If it was easy, people would find even MORE things to bitch about. You want $15 an hour up from $9-$10 an hour, you better bring me that much more worth of "employee" to the table. Tl; Dr Something something lazy millennial welfare Queens. Your argument completely broke down here. Sorry man, but as someone who went from being homeless to working hard and making *okay* money, you just have no idea how lucky you are. You completely take it for granted, and you look down upon those who may be working hard, but are stuck. Do lazy people exist? Sure they do. There's plenty of people out there who don't have any aspirations beyond mc.donalds or jack in the box or whatever. But they're not nearly as common as you think.

  • Maurice Nader Reply

    > Mike throws out an awful lot of I don't know. I was mostly remarking about his observation about the number of unfilled hobs in relation to the number of people out of work. > It's a better circumstance. I agree completely. And there's no way to stop someone who has that economic incentive to come here looking for work. That's why I think we should make some form of easy pathway for them to do so, and then tax them like everyone else. itinerant, seasonal and unskilled labor working under the table doesn't really help anyone except the guy who is paying (and maybe not even then). > The best thing we can do is make them uncomfortable in their poverty so they do for themselves like your homeless guy did. I'd love to see people get motivated to work and make a better life for themselves. But like Rowe said, people have been conditioned into thinking that certain jobs are beneath them, and that because they got their Medieval Spanish Lit degree they won't do "menial labor" like welding or plumbing or whatever. And farm work, apparently. I mentioned to my wife a few minutes ago that I was relating her farm story and he response was "Buh. Those college kids were totally useless. They didn't want to do any actual work..."

  • Amara Green Reply

    Don't know who Mike Rowe is and I'm far less likely to watch anything with Tim Allen in it. Jay Leno would be way less entertaining if instead of driving his 1920's Bentley hot rods and wrecking drag cars he was reviewing the new Sonata with two boring old dudes.

  • Ariel Gaylord Reply

    I would want to just watch an amateur video of Emma Stone and Alison Brie getting absolutely railed by Mike Rowe. No direction. No showing off for the camera. Just as fucking intimate and hot as I think it would be.

  • Rod Nikolaus Reply

    I respect what he is saying, and I know that there are a lot of people out there that blindly follow a passion they have...but the truth is, had I not diligently followed my passion, I would not have what I have today...I would have continued following the "logical" career I had and put my passion into it, and that would not be as fulfilling as what I have now. My wife is the same way...she had a passion for many of the PIECES of her previous careers...but she saw the passions she had and she followed those pieces until they became a broader coverage of her entire career, and now her passion and her career are one in the same. It's important to be realistic...and failure is NEVER a bad thing when it comes to trying out life. It's experience, and to me, following Mike Rowe's advice can definitely leave you feeling that "but what if?" me, you get one life...try everything you want to try if you are able to and it doesn't hurt those you are responsible for, and see what it does for you.

  • Major Cronin Reply

    > There's a lot of time in life. If you want to pursue a dream or passion early on it's not a big deal. You're young. I think the key is balance. People have a hard time telling the difference between passion and obsession. My wife is a middle school teacher. I'm absolutely shocked at the number of kids who make dance or playing games or youtubing their priority over all else. Didn't get homework done or a project because they had a meet all weekend or stayed up too late playing xbox. It's great to have dreams kid, but the reality is you're going to need to learn how to study and work and meet deadlines a lot more than you're going to need to know how to be snarky on youtube. I've seen a lot of bad candidates for jobs. The posting wasn't the problem. A lot of kids coming out of college just don't know how to interview or think critically. I'm not saying business don't share some of the blame, but Mike Rowe's message hits close to home for a lot of people.

  • Moriah Sauer Reply

    Easy, I always wanted to be a race car driver. I graduated college, got a good job, saved, worked my ass off, and built my first autocross car at 24 years old. Chased cones with it for a couple of years while I built it into a track car, then started doing track days as well. After many of those, I got involved with some friends building a Lemons car, and eventually worked my way into a being a guest crewman for Performance Tech Motorsports (who were endlessly awesome and treated me like family) at the VIR endurance race. I played race car driver on and off until my son was born, then hung up the helmet to concentrate on being a dad. I'll build him a go kart when he turns 6 and I'm already planning to build a Lemons car with my wife in the next year or two. "Don't follow your passion, but be passionate about what you do." - Mike Rowe

  • Carson Gleichner Reply

    I too dated a modern dancer, and she asked me the same question. I told her the same answer, and then i asked her what she's going to do with the rest of her life since she cant dance... well... She said house wife... i then told her, how about looking into business, she tried it for one semester and didnt like it. I then asked her to try biology, long story short, she end up being a RN and I married her (after she got her RN). Now she's getting her PhD. Like Mike Rowe said "Don't Pursue Your Passion. Chase Opportunity." But the first step is to be honest and see what happens.

  • Marjorie Hodkiewicz Reply

    Dude I've seen Mike Rowe do some stupid shit on T.V. that I would consider way more degrading than being arm candy for some decently hot woman and being paid at that. You're lucky as fuck. Deal with that.